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#1 Antony

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 05:16 PM

http://www.mancheste...rstall-11482692

 

A man shouting 'Britain first!'? 

 

Edit: Man reportedly 'calm' after the event. Mind control victims generally are after carrying out their appointed tasks. 


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What's in a name? Names express ideas, and he who uses wrong names is not likely to have right ideas. Britain [is] a geographical name. England is the land of the English. It is important [we] never apply the names England or English to the land or people of Britain in the days before the land became England by the English people settling in it. If we do we take people for our forefathers who are not our forefathers. [E. A. Freeman, 1879].


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Posted 16 June 2016 - 05:31 PM

Apparently he used an old single shot musket? If that's the case then how did he manage to get multiple shots off whilst wrestling with onlookers? Very strange....
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Posted 16 June 2016 - 09:53 PM

Mmmm.  My bullshitometer is buzzing at 50% at this point.  Seems awfully "convenient".


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Posted 16 June 2016 - 10:04 PM

I am not one convinced by the notion of 'false flag shootings', but I cannot help but notice how much this has been used to help the EU voice.

 

The silencing 'out of respect' of campaigning over the referendum voting, could be seen as a realisation by the authorities about how much their politicians are hated by the public. Think about it, any time David, Gordon, Tony or John even open their mouths the general public are already moving in the other direction, to shut them up is at least stopping that impetus to brexit. The stopping of campaigning though has not stopped radio 4 from telling stories in the news, on the lines of how the Chinese, or the bank of England are anti bexit, so effectively the shooting has been used to shut the anti EU voice up, but to allow the globalists to continue with their propaganda, more effectively than if it was being voiced through their puppet politicians, which the authorities maybe realising are a spent force. 


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#5 Witnere

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 11:02 PM

Reserving judgement, but it's not right, this. Something very coincidental about the death of a Remain campaigner so close to the vote. Highly suspect.
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Posted 16 June 2016 - 11:42 PM

I am not one convinced by the notion of 'false flag shootings', but I cannot help but notice how much this has been used to help the EU voice.

 

The silencing 'out of respect' of campaigning over the referendum voting, could be seen as a realisation by the authorities about how much their politicians are hated by the public. Think about it, any time David, Gordon, Tony or John even open their mouths the general public are already moving in the other direction, to shut them up is at least stopping that impetus to brexit. The stopping of campaigning though has not stopped radio 4 from telling stories in the news, on the lines of how the Chinese, or the bank of England are anti bexit, so effectively the shooting has been used to shut the anti EU voice up, but to allow the globalists to continue with their propaganda, more effectively than if it was being voiced through their puppet politicians, which the authorities maybe realising are a spent force. 

 

Good post [again]. I'm a radio listener but not so much this evening though it wouldn't surprise me if the hiatus was being used to slip a few damaging propaganda items into the news. Football teams under continual attack employ underhand tactics to break up play and disrupt momentum. This business could well be a sign of panic on high if the analogy fits. 'She spoke passionately in favour of immigration and staying in Europe' [sub-heading]. A sacrifice for the 'greater good' very likely. 


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What's in a name? Names express ideas, and he who uses wrong names is not likely to have right ideas. Britain [is] a geographical name. England is the land of the English. It is important [we] never apply the names England or English to the land or people of Britain in the days before the land became England by the English people settling in it. If we do we take people for our forefathers who are not our forefathers. [E. A. Freeman, 1879].


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Posted 16 June 2016 - 11:58 PM

http://www.mancheste...rstall-11482692

 

A man shouting 'Britain first!'? 

 

Edit: Man reportedly 'calm' after the event. Mind control victims generally are after carrying out their appointed tasks. 

Apparently, this has been discredited(according to the news on the radio) but is still being reported on BBC1(where most of the public will hear it).

The Beeb managed to link it to Britain First, without actually accusing them....bastards!


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 12:08 AM

Apparently, this has been discredited(according to the news on the radio) but is still being reported on BBC1(where most of the public will hear it).

The Beeb managed to link it to Britain First, without actually accusing them....bastards!

 

Thanks for the update Searu Man. As you say they're seldom deterred by the facts.


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What's in a name? Names express ideas, and he who uses wrong names is not likely to have right ideas. Britain [is] a geographical name. England is the land of the English. It is important [we] never apply the names England or English to the land or people of Britain in the days before the land became England by the English people settling in it. If we do we take people for our forefathers who are not our forefathers. [E. A. Freeman, 1879].


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 12:13 AM

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 01:00 AM

The problem with rising in the mafia hierarchy, is that it is known that if investigators start to get near the top, fall guys will be sacrificed.

 

Problematic propaganda.

 

Many people must have seen the idiocy of the weapons pictured in the recent article in the Mail and others of 'terrifying arsenal' which pictured plastic swords water pistol flintlocks, and hunting knives.

Early reports of muskets and hunting knives in this story seem to be placed to try to justify that stupidity. This just seems to fit the adage- Once you tell the first lie others have to follow.

 

I hear on the radio there is a twitter campaign to support MPs an stop people saying nasty things about them and trust them.

 

Britain First shout

 

When everything flows only in one direction, it becomes hard to believe it is all coincidence, there is a lot here to make me wonder has the table been tilted.

 

Brexit is going to loose a lot of votes over this because cleverly the media have managed to equate an attack on an MP with the right and Britain first and just though suspending the referendum campaigning, the Brexit vote, but it has been done in such a way that there is nothing tangible to argue, so a lot of the public who do not tend to question deeply just see the smear.

 

In their minds now a link has been created. Murdering young a mother in the street, by right wing extremists with psychological illness British nationalism and voting for brexit, and not listening to those nice hard pressed MP's who take such risks to Keep democracy alive. Tilted table or coincidence?


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 06:59 AM

Why should Brexit lose votes over this?  Are people really that fickle and stupid that they would equate this attack with anything to what will happen here if we succeed in leaving.  Supposing the attacker was from a group such as Britain First, if that is the inference, then what influence do they have politically, none as far as I can see.

Even if Brexit succeeds, it will still be the same people in Parliament, still looking to fix us for good.

 

 we have been on the slippery slope down for a while here now, and seems like the electioneering I remember from childhood, a civilised genteel affair where people were not afraid to put up posters in their windows for fear of a brick through it or worse, have long gone.  I foresee Zimbabwe style elections in the future if things don't change. 

 

Is it a false flag?  I wouldn't know.  However, it's timing will certainly take the edge off the Saint Bob on the Thames affair.  I mean here we have a gang of Social justice Warriors, Working class Hero's, etc., showing their true colours, and what they really think of ordinary folks struggles and opinions, and that equates to a big fat zero.  Unlike anyone from Britain First, or other such groups, these people will and do have influence and power, and that is more dangerous and why we are in the state we are in.

So it could be a good piece of psychological warfare, intended or just a gift landed in their lap.


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 07:02 AM

Talking of radio

French radio culture this morning reports that the killer said Put Britons First 


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 08:57 AM

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So this is the moment the #VoteLeave lot started hosing my kids with river water. Nice friendly lot #floatilla


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#14 Witnere

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 09:06 AM

I haven't heard a single leaver say they've changed their mind over this. Why would they? The two things are unrelated as far as anyone knows. There was a lower-than-rat's-arse attempt at connection yesterday, but that was quickly dismissed.
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Posted 17 June 2016 - 11:18 AM

Witnere, It is how advertising works, seeing a Heinz commercial does not make you buy a can of beans, but a person in the shop who's hand is wavering between two cans, is just slightly inclined conscientiously to the brand they saw on the telly, all those little inclinations add up to profits.

 

This is a close vote, the slight twist will make a difference, shit is thrown because shit sticks. Even when it is false. Think about the immigrant vote, west indians are inclined to vote out they do not like being replaced by Poles, Equating the out vote with white terrorism, even though it does not exist will frighten some of them off from voting and in a close vote that can make a difference.

 

There is definite twisting in a lot of the media.

 

The idea that the EU gives workers rights, is built to appeal to the left wing voter, However it is not true, but the brexit politicians hardly ever contest it; WHY?

In France the strikes are over workers rights which are being changed because of an EU directive, yet this truth does not appear in the media, and no brexit politician points this out; WHY?

When Greece had to get EU help, one of the stipulations enforced by the EU was a reduction of workers rights, this is never mentioned by brexit politicians, even though it would show the lie that workers rights are held up by the EU; WHY?

The only link between the attack and brexit is that politicians have themselves suspended the campaigns on the referendum, so why did they do that? 

I think it is to introduce a little bit of shit that they know will stick and in doing so shift all those wavering hands to the product they want us to buy.

 

The Authorities control, and to do that they often pretend to be on both sides in a debate, this way they can hobble the side they do not want to win.

 

Just a slight tilt of the table means more profit for the casino owners, and an individual punter might never notice it.


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 11:40 AM

Its the Political dirty Tricks department put into action, if this story is genuine, then she probably wasn't told what was about to happen, but either way, it stinks to high heaven..

 

But i doubt very much whether it will derail the leave vote, the ordinary folk genuinely detest Politicians, especially these days, they've been seen as liars, cheats and traitors, they've seen Cameron, Blair and the rest piss all over them, while smiling and telling em its raining..

 

In short, we've had that lot to the back teeth..

 

Only the brainless, the party sheep and the self-seeking Immigrants out for everything they can get out of us..

 

But I doubt if this will or has halted the push towards Independence/Leave!! 


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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

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#17 Witnere

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 12:07 PM

Now I know where this is going; it's being used as an excuse to close down the debate on immigration. "Hate is poisonous, hate is dangerous, we need to control the debate". There you go!
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Posted 17 June 2016 - 12:43 PM

Now I know where this is going; it's being used as an excuse to close down the debate on immigration. "Hate is poisonous, hate is dangerous, we need to control the debate". There you go!

 

Exactly mate, its the old 'Big Brother' game, another notch on the Coffin of Freedom and open debate, and even more so-called State nosing around, or State Intelligence and security, of course, for our own safety, not in anyway for the safety or security of the Political Establishment, although you know full well that the security of the State Political Mafia will increase, along with an increase a body guards, spy equipment and such, these are desperate and frightening times, for the Political Elite and the Establishment in general, they no full well, we no longer trust or believe anything they say or do, they are also well aware, that we despise them and their lies! 


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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

― Cicero

 

 

 ‘Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood, endurance and courage of my companions that would have stirred the heart of every Englishman’.

 

"Don't threaten or dictate to us until you're marching up Whitehall! And even then we won't listen!"

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 01:06 PM

Lots of stuff coming through now on the radio, of how we should not make derogatory statements about politicians, and how they are not all in it for what they can take.

 

JFK was never more popular than after he was assasinated. What happened we may never know, but it is obvious how it is being used.


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 01:30 PM

Lots of stuff coming through now on the radio, of how we should not make derogatory statements about politicians, and how they are not all in it for what they can take.

 

JFK was never more popular than after he was assasinated. What happened we may never know, but it is obvious how it is being used.

Of course not. The truth is fine though.

 

Sir Clement Freud, the former broadcaster and politician, was exposed on Tuesday night as a paedophile who sexually abused girls as young as 10 for decades.

Freud, who died in 2009, spent years abusing a girl who he brought up as a daughter, and violently raped a teenager while he was an MP.

 

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have been alerted to the fact that Freud had a villa in Praia da Luz, Portugal, the resort where the three-year-old went missing in 2007

 

wait I forgot (( Sir Clement Freud ))

 

http://www.telegraph...e-urged-to-pro/


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