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#1 PersecutedPatriot

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 07:37 PM


Socialism has been the demise of Britain over the last century and although this brutal political and bilious communal concept of class domination by intolerance towards all ethnic or cultural values has proven to fail around the world, there are still some that cling to its Marxist doctrine and seek to enforce its vile principals in England. It is so embedded in our judicial system and welfare state that it is like a terminal disease where we are constantly struggling to find a cure to rid us of this ailment in our English society.


So what keeps this alien political doctrine flowing in our community structures and why do the English people continue to put up with its totalitarian values and dominance of our every day lives? What keeps the English from uniting as one and say ‘enough is enough’ and casting out this foreign political concept that was formed on the back of brutality murder and class annihilation, a political concept that was purposely designed to infiltrate our churches and use Islam as a tool to achieve its aims. Destroying our industry through unionism and bringing the English nation to its knees by flooding it with the dregs of the world and attempting to create a multicultural society that was doomed to failure from the start.


By creating the welfare state in the 1940’s after the war, the Marxists believed they would create reliance on the state so that anyone standing in defiance of their Marxist doctrine could be excluded and the unions that had taken control of labour management could also ensure that these patriots who defied the socialist system were shunned for employment within any Industry that they controlled. In fact the only people that were left to defy the socialists and fight back were the middle classes who were not reliant on the unions for their living and in some ways kept enough people away from union control to maintain opposition to the Marxist bid to create a global society under a single political regime. The ideology of a global society was a long term plan of socialism that from its concept since the mass murder of the white Russians and the Royal family where this brutal concept spread steadily around the globe killing millions in its wake, creating religious unrest and destroying the worlds natural resources as it determinedly pushed its concept of government upon common people around the world.


In Britain it found a foothold within the Scottish social structures and infiltrated our society through lies and deception before creating the unions which were purposely designed to destroy the industry that was the back bone of the ‘British Empire’ and one of the few remaining obstacles to the path of Marxist domination in Europe, before it intent of then spreading its poisonous rhetoric to the Americas and beyond. In China and the far East the Marxist doctrine had success as the people of these Countries were no more than peasants, similar in lifestyles to the peasants of Countries crushed under the Soviet expansion in Eastern Europe, only halted at the borders where the Germanic and people of Gaul were more liberal and free thinking to realise how foul a concept communism was and the internal strife in many Countries in the West of Europe as they fought against Communist insurgents that were recruiting those who had single minded values and were willing to follow the Marxist cause like sheep as they were of the type of characters unable to have original thoughts of their own.


The demise of Socialism and its Marxist values came about through two things, the first being technology and the advance in global communication and the other thing was greed. We were able to now see a ‘Champagne Socialist’ class come to the fore that highlighted how the elite among socialists were living in luxury while the lower classes and workers they had forced this vile political concept on were struggling to survive and being kept in check by the unions and henchmen that were the ‘boot and fist’ of this dastardly concept of communal sharing.


Great Authors wrote to expose the evils of Socialism such as George Orwell in his book ‘Animal farm’ that gave an insight into how the failure of socialism drove those unfortunates who were not among the selected few at the top into further poverty and enforced obedience and Orwell’s most famous quotation that came from this novel which rang around the literate world exposing the failings of socialism by stating ‘all are equal, but some are more equal than others’.


As Socialism dies throughout Europe and the people rebel against its vile concept of being permanently kept in poverty so they can be controlled, why have the English not united and fought against the corrupt socialist led British political system? What keeps us from rising and demanding back our freedom, our lands and our cultural identity? A reason behind this is the welfare state and so called political correctness where any voice that’s raises objection is either excluded from the welfare system or arrested under the numerous false and unjust charges that the state can use under the banner of ‘political correctness’. Political correctness in itself is a terminology designed for socialist control of the people and to enforce its corrupt values upon our society. How can it be politically correct for a nationalist and patriot who loves his Country to abide by the global intentions of socialist domination and a multicultural society where all ethnic values are destroyed and individual nations beaten into submission to accept that they are no longer part of a unique and proud culture but a ‘Citizen of the world’


In the last 300 years since the demise of the English parliament and rule enforced on us by the invasion of the Dutch and European mercenaries led by William of Orange. England has been without a voice and this is why Socialism was allowed to infiltrate so deeply into our cultural heritage and destroy us from within and the blame must lay with the British political system and our forced participation in the union that nobody really wanted. It is now time to rise up against the British political system and by doing so we can cast out socialism as well and restore our English heritage and cultural identity. Socialism must not be allowed to form an alliance with Islam or any other cult or foreign political ideology that is against English values and we need to spread the word and stay strong to our values. Once we show the people of England that there is hope and that by standing together we can defeat this political abomination that has partially destroyed our Ethnicity then only then can we regain control and cast it out once and for all. Keeping the faith and uniting together is the last hope for England for if we do not achieve this in the next two decades, then England will be no more and the likes of the Socialist led European Union and the satanic cult of Islam through its barbaric principals of Sharia law will ultimately control these once proud lands.


It’s our Country so lets take it back.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 08:42 PM

Well at least you are not blaming Jews and Zionism for all our ill's, as others on this forum seem to do.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:10 PM

Socialism Is Communism. The future for England and the EU.

Communism is a country ruled by 100-200 jewish gangster billionaires. The jews who are not part of these families serve as enforcers and guards. Enforcement means murder. Brutal murder. It means labor camps. Slavery. No religion. No independent thought. No families, just atomized individuals working for the state: The jewish gangster billionaire overlords. This is communism in a nut shell. This was what the Soviet Union was: A jewish run slave labor camp. They’re back on stage now, along with the Occupy group and the Antifas, more jewish communist owned, controlled and financed groups. The jews are starting to kick for communism real hard now. The flooding of the country with immigrants was/is part of their plan to make it alot more difficult to put up an effective resistance to the jews. The racheting up of racial tension between blacks, muslims and whites is also a part of the plan to make it more difficult to put up an effective resistance against the jews. We are indoctrinated that jews greatly suffer and that they are wonderful. We can only break that propaganda by being INFORMED.

Quote from a private source.

Peter Oborne on the power of the Jewish lobby in UK politics:



And Gilad Atzmon (a Jew) for some balance:



Why would any supposedly genuine English patriot want Jewish dominated socialism/communism for England?

Or complain about those seeking to resist it.

Lenin said after the communists took Russia that if only a few more thousand rebels stood up and fought, that the communists would have lost. Maybe all we need are a few thousand more patriots too.

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1. Capitalists who want lower wage costs and less labour organisation.
2. The globalist elitists who seek a post-national, post-political population of compliant consumers, workers and debt slaves.
3. The internationalist political class, which is determined to govern over a de-sovereignised and disenfranchised people.
4. Anti-white neo-Marxists pursuing a post-racial utopia.
5. Ethnic activists, secular and religious.


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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:35 PM

Well at least you are not blaming Jews and Zionism for all our ill's, as others on this forum seem to do.


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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:38 PM

Jews settled in England with the Romans in their thousands and were absorbed into the English ethnic communities and Jewish blood runs with ours. Further reinforced with the Jewish bankers and administrators that came with the Normans, again absorbed as were the Normans into the ethnicity of England. These gradual migrations are what gave the English learning and strengthened us in many ways. Mass immigration of the last 50 years is the problem, not the Jews and for every Jewish banker you will find 4 non Jewish bankers. Jews have been part of English history since time recorded and most English Jew that have managed to retain their faith.have as much right as anyone to claim the right as being English and some are more patriot than Englishmen that stem from Catholic, Protestant or pagan descent. A person that uses religion or politics to persecute others isnot defined by their ethnicity, but by their morals.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:54 PM

I can't tell if the previous post is a wind up or not, so anyway. The OP is about socialism/comunism. More info on Russian (Jewish) Bolshevism here, linked to some of their modern day footsoldiers, the UAF:


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1. Capitalists who want lower wage costs and less labour organisation.
2. The globalist elitists who seek a post-national, post-political population of compliant consumers, workers and debt slaves.
3. The internationalist political class, which is determined to govern over a de-sovereignised and disenfranchised people.
4. Anti-white neo-Marxists pursuing a post-racial utopia.
5. Ethnic activists, secular and religious.


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Posted 26 May 2012 - 10:07 PM

Jews chose their political values the same as we do, some have been more successful and achieved political status.

Conservatives Liberals and even the greens have Jewish political activists, but I agree that Zionism is something that should remain in Israel and not try to predict influence or corrupt English politics.

This extract concerning Stalin dealing with the Jews who tried to usurp and manipulate the communist value shows how he destroyed all Zionist influence.


'Stalin discouraged Jewish self segregation. Before Stalin came to power, the USSR was run by Jewish Bolsheviks, but Stalin tried to eliminate Jewish separatism. That is why Jewish groups label him as antisemitic.


He also destroyed most of the Jewish villages and Jewish culture because he felt that they encouraged Jewish separatism. I suppose you could call him “antisemitic,” because he tried to eliminate Jewish culture as a distinct culture. He may not have murdered Jews en masse, but destroying Jewish culture is antisemitic.


However, what exactly is the destruction of Jewish culture? See that Yiddish was heavily encouraged in the USSR – no state anywhere on Earth has ever promoted Yiddish as well as the USSR did. What was definitely discouraged was Jewish nationalism.

A Jewish state was set up, albeit in Siberia. However, some Jews did move there, and they could and did have a homeland there. '

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 11:00 PM

Don't think that because of the comment at 2 that there's anyone on this site that blames 'Jews' for all of Englands ills. This is a completely erroneous statement, there are no mono-causalists or neo-nazis here (apart from fojdoffler).

There are a range of views and opinions across all subject matters, including the influence of Imperial Judaism on English politics, immigration policy, usury/finance, geo-politics and 'defence' objectives. Everyone here is accutely aware of the actions of traitors within our own ranks.

Some are completely unaware of any Jewish role in Englands plight and aren't interested in the subject in the slightest. At the other extreme there are some that are more concerned over Jewish complicity and look to Jewish history and wonder if that long established and well documented pattern of national exploitation and subterfuge is playing a role here too.

This is a justifiable concern when one looks at the individuals that control the main nodes of cultural, financial and political power within the UK and the direction they are dragging this country.

Some EG members are even at the outright conspiracy theory end of the spectrum. My own thoughts on that are based on what I see happening before me with my own eyes. What 15, 10, even 5 years ago was considered nothing more than crazy talk, now seems to be becoming a reality. And more so by the day.

My thoughts on 'Jews' are complex. The worst of them are up to their necks in what be-devils England and the world. Fact. There is absolutely nothing you can say that would persuade me otherwise. That's not to say that I believe they're acting alone or that all Jews are culpable/bad people/ or even genetically descended from the historical people of Judea at all.

As for the history of communism/socialism/USSR/Stalin and how that links to todays England, we'll all be more than happy to hear what you have to say. I for one am fascinated by your assertion of undying affection for our Jewish overlords. And I would imagine several EG members will have some question marks over these English Jews you mention and their right to claim Englishness too.

Nice to meet you though. You are the first EDL pro-Zionist I have ever knowingly communicated with. I thought you guys were a myth.


Back to communism/socialism/liberalism - The History of Political Correctness, a 100% Jewish Inspired Ideology:


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1. Capitalists who want lower wage costs and less labour organisation.
2. The globalist elitists who seek a post-national, post-political population of compliant consumers, workers and debt slaves.
3. The internationalist political class, which is determined to govern over a de-sovereignised and disenfranchised people.
4. Anti-white neo-Marxists pursuing a post-racial utopia.
5. Ethnic activists, secular and religious.


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Posted 27 May 2012 - 08:58 AM

Jews settled in England with the Romans in their thousands and were absorbed into the English ethnic communities and Jewish blood runs with ours.


Hmmm really? Does that go for the 'thousands' of African Roman soldiers we're always told about too?


Further reinforced with the Jewish bankers and administrators that came with the Normans, again absorbed as were the Normans into the ethnicity of England.


Norman integration was accepted because of our cultural and genetic similarity. I very much doubt the Anglo-Saxons welcomed Jewish integration. Interesting to note... why did they come with the Normans?


These gradual migrations are what gave the English learning and strengthened us in many ways.


I hope I'm misinterpreting you, but if not - I find this disrespectful; as though we were savages to be educated. I'm not against interaction with other cultures, but the only thing I know of that the Jews introduced to England was usury.


Mass immigration of the last 50 years is the problem, not the Jews and for every Jewish banker you will find 4 non Jewish bankers.


Lowly bankers are pawns in the game. There's no denying that millions of gentile Englishmen have been duped, weakened and had their greed nurtured by this despicable system. But I'm fairly sure the vast majority of head-bankers (particularly the heads of the central banks) are of 'the chosen race'.


Jews have been part of English history since time recorded and most English Jew that have managed to retain their faith.have as much right as anyone to claim the right as being English and some are more patriot than Englishmen that stem from Catholic, Protestant or pagan descent.


Quite simply, no - they do not have the right to be English. Christianity was Paganised, Judaism (although basically Pagan since its origin) has in no way adapted to European ways. Judaism is an entirely foreign faith and anyone who professes that faith is not an Englishman. Also, "Jews have been part of English history since time recorded"? Yes - but look at what is recorded about them. They were rejected, re-welcomed, rejected, re-welcomed. They are rarely mentioned in any other context than money-lending, and if that is seen as a positive contribution to England, well, I beg to differ.

http://www.britainex...pulson-jews.htm


Look... I'm not a hater of Jews. Just as I'm not a hater of Muslims. It's their Talmud and their Qur'an that I despise. Those texts teach them to be bad people, and if they were to break free from their religions they could be good people (see Brother Nathanael Kapner). But a practicing Jew is no more English than a practicing Muslim. The fact that Jews settled in England a long time ago indicates nothing, as they have never actually integrated with the wider English community. The entire subject of Jews in Europe is very complex and must be approached cautiously (not just because "anti-Semitism" is the greatest crime imaginable). I believe many greedy people use Judaism as a cover for personal, selfish intentions. I believe the Rothschild Dynasty uses Jews for their own agenda. But let's not sugar-coat the factual history of the Jewish people. Their history in England and Europe is a turbulent one and there have been long-standing compatibility issues. Usury has been used to enslave Christians for centuries.

It's funny - some will say I sound like a raving neo-Nazi, but just a year ago I had not a bad word to say about Judaism. I never wanted to even develop a knowledge of Judaism's history in Europe, but it happened and I can't turn a blind eye to the facts. I'd also like to point out to any new members of 'lurkers', ASF is absolutely not focussed upon the 'Jewish Question', but some of us can't help but present the facts as we see them, where relevant.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 09:34 AM

Jews settled in England with the Romans in their thousands and were absorbed into the English ethnic communities and Jewish blood runs with ours. Further reinforced with the Jewish bankers and administrators that came with the Normans, again absorbed as were the Normans into the ethnicity of England. These gradual migrations are what gave the English learning and strengthened us in many ways. Mass immigration of the last 50 years is the problem, not the Jews and for every Jewish banker you will find 4 non Jewish bankers. Jews have been part of English history since time recorded and most English Jew that have managed to retain their faith.have as much right as anyone to claim the right as being English and some are more patriot than Englishmen that stem from Catholic, Protestant or pagan descent. A person that uses religion or politics to persecute others isnot defined by their ethnicity, but by their morals.
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This civic approach is an insult to English ethnicity. Being English isn't a label and just by merely being born in England doesn't make you English. I don't like the tone of this post Posted Image
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 09:35 AM

I have no problem with jewish people or any one else for that matter, unless they are enemies of the English. And it is a fact that jews have lived in England since the conquest, but they were, and remained, a very insular people separated from the Ethnic English for most of the time and not at all integrated.
They were in fact viewed as a useful tool by the monarchy and aristocracy, for their financial and business accumen and their ability to collect and lend money, and equally with hatred and contempt by the common English people because of those same attributes

When they were expelled by Edward 1 in 1290 they numbered 16,000, and up until that time their history with the Ethnic English people was not one of integration but separation and ostracism.

The following is a quote from The Jewish Encyclopedia

"There is no evidence of Jews residing in England before the Norman Conquest. The few references in the Anglo-Saxon Church laws either relate to Jewish practises about Easter or apply to passing visitors, the Gallo-Jewish slave-traders, who imported English slaves to the Roman market and thus brought about the Christianizing of England. William of Malmesbury ("Gesta Rerum Anglorum," ed. Duffy, p. 500) distinctly states that William the Conqueror brought the Jews from Rouen to England, and there is no reason to doubt his statement. The Conqueror's object can easily be guessed. From Domesday it is clear that his policy was to get the feudal dues paid to the royal treasury in coin rather than in kind, and for this purpose it was necessary to have a body of men scattered through the country that would supply quantities of coin"

http://www.jewishenc...es/5764-england

I would certainly agree with the idea that modern socialist ideology is at the root of the demise of England and the attempt to erase Ethnic English identity, but it has been fully aided and abetted by the other political parties as well.Posted Image
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 09:53 AM

I've never heard of the Romans bringing Jews over here, and if they did they would have buggered off with the rest before the savage Saxons and Angles got here. Rome cleared off and Roman influenece disappered with it.
The Jewish history of England begins with William the Bastard who brought them over to fund his campaigns against the Englisc resistance, in return he set them up in their own communities seperate and much better off than the Englisc natives. That's all I need to know about Jewish history in England.
For modern Jewish influence, i'll just turn on the tv or open a newspaper.
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When Offa spilled Myrging blood we were proud
When Hengest routed the wealas we were proud
When Penda withstood the cross we were proud
When Alfred stayed the Danes we were proud

Heroes passed unto ye we give hail
Mighty men without fear, without shame
Some will say that our pride is a sin
But in their name we'll unite and we're proud to be proud

When victory was won at Brunanburh we were proud
When Byrhtnoth raised his sword we were proud
When Harold destroyed Hardrada we were proud
When Hereward defied the bastard we were proud

Slowly with time the past slips away
But deep in our souls their memory stays
Weapons of guilt won't conquer our minds
Just strengthen our will to defy

The ignorant void ever opening wide
But we keep their names and spirits alive
Arrows of fear won't pierce our minds
Just strengthen our will to defy

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 10:18 AM

Persecuted patriot is right, the jews have contributed to English history, good and bad, one of the good things being that they funded the british army during the Napoleonic wars, but that still doesn't give them a right to live here. And I also agree with Randwulf, alot of posts on here have become bizarly anti-semitic, and I know that no-one on here hates the Jews but there have been alot of conspiracy theories cropping up about the world being secretly run by Jews etc... I mean, what's the point in us trying to convince everyone that we aren't Nazis, when all you do is blame the Jews?

There are alot of convincing theories about secret Jewish plutocrats and the like, but alot of conspiracy theories are convincing and tend to be complete rubbish, remember that it is still quite possible that our government are a bunch of self-serving cocks, the public haven't got a clue what they're talking about and the left are a bunch of 'know-it-alls ' who are detached from reality.

None of it matters anyway, some day we'll take England back and when we do heads will roll, whether they be Jewish, Communist or martian.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 10:28 AM

We all fund a Jewish security force in this country through our hard earned taxes - David Cameron is Jewish and quite clearly states this and also the funding in his speech to the CST http://www.thejc.com...rons-speech-cst - Where's our tax funded English security force?

And if Zionism doesn't exist then why this? http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ and this http://jewsnotzionists.org/ and this http://www.ijsn.net/home/

And take a look at this: http://www.jewsagain...caust/index.cfm



But anyway, as you say Oath bearer - we'll take England back one day!
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 10:41 AM

Jews settled in England with the Romans in their thousands and were absorbed into the English ethnic communities and Jewish blood runs with ours. Further reinforced with the Jewish bankers and administrators that came with the Normans, again absorbed as were the Normans into the ethnicity of England. These gradual migrations are what gave the English learning and strengthened us in many ways. Mass immigration of the last 50 years is the problem, not the Jews and for every Jewish banker you will find 4 non Jewish bankers. Jews have been part of English history since time recorded and most English Jew that have managed to retain their faith.have as much right as anyone to claim the right as being English and some are more patriot than Englishmen that stem from Catholic, Protestant or pagan descent. A person that uses religion or politics to persecute others isnot defined by their ethnicity, but by their morals.
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Bill, how could the Four-by Two's mix with the English in Roman times? I ask, well simply, that there were no Englisc here during the period of Roman Rule, around four hundred years, since England wasn't founded on this Island until around the four hundreds AD onwards, so where were the Englisc before then??

Oh yes, there was an England/Anglen, across the North Sea in Southern Denmark as is known today, but certainly not in the Island before that time, around the early/mid four Hundred's AD for the Foundation period of Engla-land in this Island, and they certainly weren't Four-By-Two's either...............
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 11:02 AM

In the days of Rome - this land was the failed Roman province 'Brittania'. There was no such place as England, Scotland or Wales for that matter. The ancestors created England and named it after themselves. The Romans failed and returned to Rome. This land was then left to fend for itself. The Romans had great respect for the Germanic tribes (who were all closely related to one another) and so Rome invited the Germanic tribes to defend the land from the raiding Picts. Eventually the Germanic tribes invited more tribes and eventually took the land for themselves hence naming it after themselves. So before our ancestors there was no such country as England - making us the indigenous people. I hope this helps clear things up a little?
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 11:37 AM

And I also agree with Randwulf, alot of posts on here have become bizarly anti-semitic, and I know that no-one on here hates the Jews but there have been alot of conspiracy theories cropping up about the world being secretly run by Jews etc... I mean, what's the point in us trying to convince everyone that we aren't Nazis, when all you do is blame the Jews?


I understand your concern, and I wish mention of Jews need never crop up around here. The problem is - do we openly consider uncomfortable truths, as truth-loving patriots, or do we overlook the whole issue for ease and diplomacy? That's a genuine question. Some discussion forums might be better off taking discussion of certain subjects off the table - maybe ASF is one of them (it's up to Seaxan). As for the "Nazi" thing - I've hated Nazis all of my life, but sadly my research shows me I've been lied to... a lot! I'm not a Nazi and I can never excuse their barbarism, but does that mean I'm not allowed to criticise Jews just as I would Muslims and Christians? I know what you'e saying - the average onlooker is going to equate unfavourable mention of Jews with Nazism, no matter whether we're Nazis or not. But in my book, everything and everyone is fair game for inspection and those close-minded onlookers are just going to have to accept that.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 11:43 AM

I understand your concern, and I wish mention of Jews need never crop up around here. The problem is - do we openly consider uncomfortable truths, as truth-loving patriots, or do we overlook the whole issue for ease and diplomacy? That's a genuine question. Some discussion forums might be better off taking discussion of certain subjects off the table - maybe ASF is one of them (it's up to Seaxan). As for the "Nazi" thing - I've hated Nazis all of my life, but sadly my research shows me I've been lied to... a lot! I'm not a Nazi and I can never excuse their barbarism, but does that mean I'm not allowed to criticise Jews just as I would Muslims and Christians? I know what you'e saying - the average onlooker is going to equate unfavourable mention of Jews with Nazism, no matter whether we're Nazis or not. But in my book, everything and everyone is fair game for inspection and those close-minded onlookers are just going to have to accept that.


And on that mate - who cares if we get called 'Nazi'. Its just a word that the left use against us to silence us and stop us talking openly about our concerns.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 12:02 PM

Not going to bother debating here. Let's just say that Longshanks had the right idea.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 01:23 PM

I have no problems with the Jews as such,I do have issues with much of their faith,it is an alien concept at best.
I doubt if any were involved in last years riots because they seem to have a firm grip on their children. Maybe it is the strength of the archetypal "Jewish Mothers".
However, they will be the first to tell us they are of the Jewish Race, how that works, I have no idea, because you can get the Eastern European, North African and even Oriental looking ones.
They were kicked out by Edward and let back in by Cromwell. England worked perfectly well without them in between times, that is the important thing.
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