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#1 Andy

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:48 PM

The magic of Fifties suburbia when socks were darned, baths shared and kids roamed wild. Only now does Michelle Hanson appreciate what a glorious age it was to grow up in


By Michelle Hanson
Last updated at 8:33 AM on 22nd February 2012

People often sneer at suburbia these days. They assume it’s dull, conventional and stuffed with nosy old spinsters hiding behind their net curtains and privet hedges.
They think it’s all identical little houses, pebble-dashed, semi-detached with pointy roofs and a couple of mock-Tudor beams. Inside, it’s three-up, two-down, kitchen at the back, all identical.  
They are perhaps mocking what they believe to be the home of Middle England, where everyone pokes their nose into everyone else’s business because there’s so little going on in their own lives.

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Young and free: Children playing in 1950s Britain when 'no one seemed to be as frightened as they are now'


For many years, I felt like this myself. Ruislip — my typically suburban home town in Middlesex — seemed motionless and stifling to the young me. Everything shut down on a Sunday. There was nothing much to do and nowhere to go.
I didn’t leave until I was 21, when I moved to London, thrilled to escape the stuffy old place for good. And it’s only now, aged 69, with the benefit of hindsight and firmly entrenched in the madness that is Central London 2012, that I look back and realise that Ruislip was actually a lost paradise.
Back then, suburbia was one huge playground for us children. I was an only child, luckily living in one of the larger, detached houses, but we all had our gardens, the fields, the woods, the banks of the River Pinn, the lido, our dogs, pet mice and riding (it didn’t cost an arm and a leg in those days).
And oddly enough — and this is perhaps the major difference between my childhood and that of today’s children — we were allowed out. By ourselves.


Even my mother, Anxiety Queen of the Century, let me go out to play in the woods and pick bluebells, aged nine, with my friends, and no grown-up to supervise us.
No one seemed to be as frightened as they are now. There was hardly any traffic, so crossing the road was not the near-death experience that it can be today. But we did apparently have a mad Tarzan in the woods, and the odd flasher wandering the streets and the common.
I never saw the ‘Tarzan’ myself, but we all knew that he would suddenly appear, swinging down from a tree in his loin-cloth, whooping and giving lady walkers a terrible fright.
My friend Laraine, out riding, remembers coming across a very rude man on the common one day, but she and the other young riders galloped around him in a circle on their ponies, like red Indians around the white settlers’ caravan, and scared the poor man witless.
Even then, the grown-ups didn’t seem to panic. Nothing stopped them from letting us out to play. They seemed to understand the intrinsic need for children to take risks and learn the basic life lesson that actions have consequences.


So what did ‘play’ mean back then? There was barely any telly, no mobiles, iPhones or iPlayers, no internet, computer games, PlayStations and no pop stars. We had only the simplest of equipment: jacks, marbles, skipping-ropes, bats, balls and bicycles.

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Playing conkers in the school playground. Children often made up their own games, held snail races, picked blackberries and made dens


Most of the time, my friends and I made our own games up: making perfume from rose petals, brewing ginger beer, holding snail races, picking blackberries, making dens in the woods.
We played by the river bank, fishing for sticklebacks and newts, climbed trees and cycled everywhere.
Other children played doctors and nurses, but not me and my chums. We preferred more daring games, such as jumping off the garage roof — which was several feet high. And, most daring of all, we once hauled my boxer dog, Lusty, up there in a blanket. What a triumph!
But whatever was my mother thinking to allow that? Did she even see us at it?
In fact, she seemed to leave us to our own devices most of the time. No after-school this, that or  the other.
This must all sound so primitive to today’s young. How would they cope with just two channels of black- and-white telly for only a couple of hours a day? And just the one rotary-dial telephone in the hall?
So how did we manage?
I don’t want to sound a show-off here, but we used our imaginations. We had to. There wasn’t anything much else around.
For the grown-ups in Ruislip, just like anywhere else, life could sometimes be difficult, and under the respectable surface, Ruislip was sometimes hit by scandal.
Some of the parents in the neighbourhood were locked in unhappy marriages. One mother I knew of had countless affairs; another turned to drink; and my Auntie Celia tried hard to diddle us out of money left to us by my grandma when she died.
These events took their toll on my mother, who used to shout a lot, especially at my father, who was such a sulker.

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Learning about the great outdoors: Children used their imaginations as there was little else around to entertain them


I escaped the uproar by going out to play with my friends. Or I could go to the library at the bottom of the High Street, housed in what used to be a 16th-century barn, still with its huge, old, wooden beams, surrounded by gardens, a duck pond and a bit of original moat, and full of books. Only books, mind: there were no DVDs and no PCs in the library. Or at school either — where we had little pots of ink on our desks and dip pens.
'For the grown-ups in Ruislip, just like anywhere else, life could sometimes be difficult, and under the respectable surface, Ruislip was sometimes hit by scandal'
For us, new technology meant a lever fountain pen. No cartridges. I still think cartridges are wasteful — a few drops of ink wrapped in all that plastic. But we were altogether far less wasteful back then.
When you think about it, our mothers were the first recyclers in an earlier age of austerity. Soon, we might have to be following their example: darning socks, turning lights off, sharing baths and saving brown paper bags — which is something I still do. They’re perfect for soaking up the excess chip fat.
That’s another relic from my thoroughly suburban childhood: home-made chips. Who makes home-made chips any more? Hardly anyone. My mother did.
Like most other Ruislip mothers, she cooked everything, because there were no ready-meals or fast food then. Not even pizzas, hamburgers or fried chicken.
No wonder she was browned off. Stuck in the kitchen, like all the other housewives, slaving away at their cookers.
But at least, out in Ruislip, they had plenty of space: somewhere to hang out the washing, wring things out through the mangle (yes, we still had them).
Even the poorer families had gardens big enough to grow vegetables and fruit trees; to have tea on the lawn and a lively pet dog. And with all the home-cooked food and running about, we children seemed to be healthier.

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A young boy playing with his train set. Children had freedom in the fifties but adults did not
We mightn’t have heard of avocados out in Ruislip, but we hardly ever heard of obesity either.


We didn’t appreciate that contentment at the time, though. My friends and I grew into teenagers, rock  ’n’  roll’ and Buddy Holly arrived, and Ruislip (even with its two whole cinemas) began to feel far too dull for us. What did still hold our interest were the boys from the nearby U.S. air force base, known as American Dependents.
They perked Ruislip up with their crew-cuts, bobby-socks and blue jeans, which we local youngsters still couldn’t buy.
We could always find them out rowing on the lido, our own local seaside resort complete with lawns, beach and a miniature railway.
My parents chummed up with a charming American couple  who brought nylons, bourbon  whisky and laughs to our house. One friend of mine married a Dependent. In the main, the Americans were a huge plus.
But by the time I was 17, even the Americans couldn’t sustain my interest. I had become a beatnik, joined the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament and attended art school in Ealing during the day, which I thought much more sophisticated than boring old Ruislip.
That was the thing about the suburbs in the Fifties: while children had freedom, the grown-ups didn’t.
My father worked hard and was always worrying about ‘the business’ — a factory he owned making women’s belts and accessories.
And I suspect that life as a suburban housewife was frustrating for my mother and many of her friends. Although my mother had left school at 14, she was an energetic, bright and forceful woman.

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Boys playing football in a residential street in London. Children today do not have the freedom these children had


But, in those days, wives didn’t often have careers. And leaving your husband wasn’t the comparative breeze that it is now. You wouldn’t necessarily have been allowed to take the children with you, and living in sin was a terrible thing to do.  
My father, like most husbands then, came home and expected his dinner to be ready.
Eventually, I moved to Shepherd’s Bush, and then North London, and taught in schools all over the inner city. I had a daughter and never returned to suburbia.
Luckily for my daughter, Amy, we had a small garden and lived near Hampstead Heath, but she and her friends never had the freedom to play like we did.
Now that I’m so much older, I can once again see the charm of the suburbs. My very oldest friend, Jacqueline, still lives there — in a small house with a big garden — so I do get to return now and again.
The Ruislip of the Fifties that I knew is gone for ever, of course, with its farrier, Tom, in his forge next to the library, the police station with its blue light, the village sweet and toy shops, and the passing tradesmen who used to call at our house — the coalman, the poultry farmer, the milkman and the horse-drawn carts with bread and vegetables.
And as for the two cinemas, they’re now a Sainsbury’s and a McDonald’s. And heaven only knows what’s going on inside  the library.
Yet it’s all still the same in some ways. If I drive down the quiet road to Jacqueline’s house, there’s hardly any traffic, no constant roaring background noise. And there are fields and masses of blackberry bushes behind her garden.
So although many Ruislip residents probably now spend much of their lives indoors stuck in front of screens like the rest of us, their brains scrambled by information overload, glued to Google and Facebook, thinking they have a squillion friends, they could, if they fancied it, still find some space, peace and quiet and relatively fresh air out there in the suburbs.
  • Michele Hanson’s memoir, What The Grown-Ups Were Doing: An Odyssey Through 1950s Suburbia, is published by Simon & Schuster and is available now in hardback and ebook.







WHEN WE WAS BRUNG UP PROPER!



It’s the new online sensation — a lyrical evocation of growing up in the more innocent days of the Forties, Fifties and Sixties, when children were safe to play where they liked, the internet was decades away and political correctness was unheard of . . .

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A policeman helps a young child post a letter. For the grown-ups in Ruislip, just like anywhere else, life could sometimes be difficult


Congratulations to all my friends who were born in the 1940s, 50s and 60s.
First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank sherry while they carried us and lived in houses made of asbestos.
They took aspirin, ate blue cheese, bread and dripping, raw egg products, loads of bacon and processed meat, and didn’t get tested for diabetes or cervical cancer.
Then, after that trauma, our baby cots were covered with bright coloured lead-based paints.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, or locks on doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets or shoes, not to mention the risks we took hitchhiking.
As children, we would ride in cars with no seatbelts or air bags.
We drank water from the garden hose, not from a bottle.
Takeaway food was limited to fish and chips, there were no pizza shops, McDonald’s, KFC, Subway or Nando’s.
Even though all the shops closed at 6pm and didn’t open on a Sunday, somehow we didn’t starve to death!
We shared one soft drink with four friends from one bottle and no one died from this. We could collect old drink bottles and cash them in at the corner store and buy toffees, gobstoppers and bubble gum.
We ate white bread and real butter, drank cow’s milk and soft drinks with sugar, but we weren’t overweight because . . . we were always outside playing!
We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on. No one was able to reach us all day, but we were OK. We would spend hours building go-karts out of old prams and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes.
We built treehouses and dens and played in riverbeds with Matchbox cars.
We did not have PlayStations, Nintendo Wii and Xboxes, or video games, DVDs, or colour TV.
There were no mobiles, computers, internet or chatrooms. We had friends and we went outside and found them!
We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents. And we ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, too.
Only girls had pierced ears.
You could buy Easter eggs and hot cross buns only at Easter time.
We were given air guns and catapults for our tenth birthdays, we rode bikes or walked to a friend’s house and knocked on the door or just yelled for them.
Not everyone made the school rugby, football, cricket or netball teams. Those who didn’t had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that. Getting into the team was based on merit.
Our teachers hit us with canes, gym shoes and threw the blackboard rubber at us if they thought we weren’t concentrating.
We can string sentences together, spell and have proper conversations now because of a solid three Rs education.
Our parents would tell us to ask a stranger to help us cross the road.
Mum didn’t have to go to work to help Dad make ends meet because we didn’t need to keep up with the Joneses!
The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!
Parents didn’t invent stupid names  for their kids like Kiora, Blade, Ridge  and Vanilla.
We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all.
You might want to share this with others who grew up in an era before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives.
And while you are at it, forward it to your children, so they will know how brave their parents were.



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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:50 PM

How could those people live in such a horribly white country, thank goodness that within 60 years their lifes will benefit from massive amounts of non white immigration.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:04 AM

I'm actually rather jealous reading this, the England back then looks absolutely beautiful.
Shame I never experienced it. Amazingly though, i'm still able to see the differences and see that what we live in now is ugly.
You can see the unity among local communities and Country. As if they're just one large family! No segregation/dividing between peoples.

Kinship, right there.

A great read Andy, again, Cheers.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:05 AM

View PostMr West, on 23 February 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

I'm actually rather jealous reading this, the England back then looks absolutely beautiful

Empty roads in the early evening so you could easily hear the birds singing. Strangers would look out for you if you were lost, or distressed or needed to get home. Just happy really, no danger or threats anywhere, that's what our fathers who fought in the war would have wanted. They were betrayed.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 02:05 AM

Belonging to the sub culture that I do, I have something of an affinity with this era (some of the suits I own are older than me), even though I was born later on in 1963. Nothing is ever perfect, but compared to what's happening to us now it was bleedin' paradise!

Here's Kim Wilde's dad (her of Kids in America fame) Marty Wilde, who was quite a star back in the late 1950's/early '60s (and he's still doing the rounds today). This isn't from the 1950's but from 1963. It's been posted before but I thought I'd just post it again for obvious reasons. Can't remember the last time I saw this. I can't think why it's never shown. Posted Image I mean, fancy portraying a Scot wearing a kilt with a bottle in his hand...



To me, any era before the rot set in is preferable to the times we're living in now. If you want to see an England that is forever lost to us then I suggest watching the 1944 film A Canterbury Tale, which has to be one of my favourite English films of that decade.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:37 AM

For our younger readers really who have no concept of how short a time span it has taken Westminster to destroy the English nation through mass immigration of non white peoples.

And for Wodens Child a look back at his favourate film period.

When silence was golden: As the film The Artist is tipped for Oscars, Barry Norman looks at the magical evocations of an era



By Barry Norman

Last updated at 2:19 AM on 23rd February 2012
Whatever the reason — a search for relief from the gloom of the economic slump, perhaps — this year’s Oscar voters, like their Bafta counterparts before them, seem to be yearning nostalgically for a simpler era, the age of the silent movie.
When the Academy Awards are handed out on Sunday evening the front-runner for trophies will be Martin Scorsese’s Hugo with 11 nominations, and right behind it, with ten nominations, Michel Hazanavicius’ film The Artist.
Both are loving tributes to the silent movie. Hugo is essentially an homage to French filmmaker Georges Melies, while The Artist, which has already scooped seven Baftas, is quite simply a silent movie itself.

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Setting the scene: In the days of silent film, the pianist was vital in helping to create the mood

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Full house: A packed auditorium at Birmingham's huge West End cinema in the 1900s. Spare a thought for anyone unlucky enough to be sat behind the ladies in wide-brimmed hats


The glimpses of Melies’ early films shown in Hugo bring back the wonder of a newborn medium, at the dawn of the 20th century.

The Artist, set when talkies were beginning to take over, artfully reflects a long-lost time when Hollywood appeared to be a truly magical and glamorous place where everyone was beautiful and anything was possible.


Between them, both films evoke memories of a period when Charlie Chaplin was the biggest star in the world, Mary Pickford was America’s sweetheart and Douglas Fairbanks Snr buckled swashes all over the screen, a time when — as these photographs show — cinema was coming into its own as the most popular type of mass entertainment there had ever been.
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This usher and pageboy are smart enough for a sergeant-major's inspection


In those mid-1920s Chaplin made his great classic The Gold Rush, featuring the dance of the bread rolls and the starving Charlie eating his own bootlaces like spaghetti. Rudolph Valentino was making female hearts — and knees — tremble in sagas like Blood And Sand and Son Of The Sheikh.
Meanwhile Fairbanks was being ever so brave and dashing in The Three Musketeers and  The Thief Of Baghdad, and Theda Bara, aka The Vamp, was flaunting voluptuous sex all over the screen.
Buster Keaton, meanwhile, starred in and co-directed one of the best of all silent movies, The General, an American Civil War story that involves a great train chase.
In 1927 came Wings, a story about World War I fighter pilots starring the ‘It Girl’ Clara Bow, which became the first — and so far only — silent movie to win the Oscar for best picture, though The Artist may well equal it.
Some of the picture palaces — or Cinematograph Theatres as they grandly called themselves — in which such films were shown were quite palatial, others more functional, but what they had in common was that they were packed. People queued around the block, sometimes for hours, clutching a few pence for their tickets, to be greeted royally by staff dressed in pristine uniforms.
Once inside, shoulder-to-shoulder and often sitting on simple wooden chairs, they watched, open-mouthed, as a huge, clumsy projector threw a flickering film onto the screen. There was no dialogue, just subtitles. A gun fired by a white-hatted sheriff at a black-hatted villain made no noise.

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Round the block-buster: Hundreds of cinema-goers queue patiently in London's Strand to see 1928 gold rush film The Trail of '98 at The Tivoli


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The reel deal: Despite the precautions, a projection room was a dangerous place to be in 1927. Cinemas used highly inflammable nitrate film until 1952


The only sound, depending on the grandeur of the place, came from an orchestra, an organ or sometimes just a lone pianist improvising the music — soft for the love scenes, a crescendo for the action.
What lends enchantment to the images conjured up in Hugo and  The Artist and in these photographs is that they belong to a bygone age, which very few people in the world can still remember.
It was a less sophisticated age when people were more easily pleased, but whether it was a better one is open to debate. In 1927, the year when The  Artist is set, World War I was over, but Britain had only just got over the  General Strike and the Depression years were lurking around the corner.

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Matinee fans: These Londoners waiting to see a film in 1932 would have needed cheering up - there were nearly three million unemployed and benefits had been cut


What’s more, perhaps to indicate that human nature is always unpredictable, there was a time during World War I when the Rink cinema in London’s Finsbury Park was under constant police surveillance because of ‘the indecent behaviour’ going on inside.
Since this behaviour apparently involved ‘amorous soldiers’ and ‘loose young women’ we can probably guess what it was — rather worse than people nowadays leaving their mobile phones on while watching the movie.  
So perhaps we shouldn’t be too  nostalgic for the silent era.


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:56 AM

Andy, you do know that putting up all these photos featuring those nasty white people will get this forum closed down don't you?  An England with a monoculture? Whatever next. Posted Image

Barry Norman's dad was Leslie Norman, a film director.  I've always sensed that Barry Norman is something of a lefty, which isn't surprising seeing as he supports the Liberal Democrats - and he's never been one for looking back fondly at the past. Well, lefties wouldn't would they? It contains all the things they hate.

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What’s more, perhaps to indicate that human nature is always unpredictable, there was a time during World War I when the Rink cinema in London’s Finsbury Park was under constant police surveillance because of ‘the indecent behaviour’ going on inside.
Since this behaviour apparently involved ‘amorous soldiers’ and ‘loose young women’ we can probably guess what it was — rather worse than people nowadays leaving their mobile phones on while watching the movie.
So perhaps we shouldn’t be too nostalgic for the silent era.

Mr Norman obviously hasn't been to a cinema bang in the middle of a multicultural city lately, has he? As for there being three million unemployed, so what's changed in that respect?? The only difference is that people then weren't encouraged to sit on their backsides by having a myriad of benefits to fall back on - and we certainly weren't handing them out to a long line of immigrants.

As to Michele Hanson's book, it might make for an interesting read, though some aspects of it may come from a Jewish outlook - with tales of how her own mother was suspicious of her non Jewish neighbours and their behaviour, lifestyle, etc.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:45 PM

I made my eldest read the bit about those born in the 40`s, 50`s and 60`s, he was awe stuck to say the least. One thing I will never miss is the amount of nylon in the clothing.
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:13 AM

Too young to remember the 50s. The 70's I do though, and there were blacks and Pakistanis here by then, but I recall them being a true minority and knowing to tow-the-line. I have watched in horror and sadness through my adulthood as one place after another in London has fallen to them then gone to ruin. It is at the state of affairs where if I journey out and fail to hear a foriegn language all the time I'm out it is a happy day for me. That shouldn't be.
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:31 AM

I can't say very much but this, after reading the above posts, i could cry, i really could, to remember the England we have all lost..

I was born in 1960, brought up, or dragged up through the sixties, tin bath use to hang on a hook by the back door which was always open, i use to get bathed in the sink as a baby, then the bath with my sister in front of the fire in Winter, my dad was a Pit man, as was his brothers, and his dad before him, as was his grandad, and his dad, and so on, my dad was the last to go down the pit..We kids didn't see Immigrants, there were one or two that we use to stare at, there weren't many cars, we could just walk without being accosted or attacked..

We played outside mostly, a lot of games that have been mentioned above, including doctors and nurses, mummies and daddies, war, cowboys, foot ball, cricket, and many others, our imagination was important to us, the summers were long, as were the winters, cold, and smoggy..

Even School was a lot more fun back then than now, we weren't brain washed but taught, educated, the three R's...

We were happy, and blissfully unaware of what was planned for us, so yes, i could cry...

But i HATE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO MY ENGLAND!!Posted Image em!!
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"Lo There do i see my Father. Lo There do i see my Mother. My Sisters and my Brothers. Lo There do i see the line of my People going back to the Beginning. Lo They do call to me. They bid me take my place among them. In the Halls of VALHALLA. Where the BRAVE MAY LIVE FOR EVER."

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 03:02 AM

How anyone can say that multi racial England is an improvement on white England is beyond me.

As non white immigration increases so our country, our communities and our nation deteriorates.  In a few years this country will be one big ghetto.  

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