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[Unbroken Shieldwall]

I've done a narrative this time albeit with the worst mic in the world. This is as loud as I could get it but it doesn't pick up the low  tone bits very well.

Anyway this is my view on the oppression of the English:






Do you agree with me sentiments? And anything you would change?


Cheers

Smitty!

[Oath-Bearer]

Good job mate, I agree with your sentiments entirely, particularly the bit about Alex Salmond and the favouritism towards the scottish, I was also very interested in the 'fighting man' banner and I might look into whether his holiness the pope is still holding onto it...

And it was interesting to hear your voice for the first time too

Dave

[Andy]

Already tried in 2007 but no luck, possibly we could try again Dave. Though whether the same guy is in charge I dont know........
Might be worth doing some digging and sending another letter.
I was lazy only sent one letter.


I sent this e-mail in 2007;

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Cooper (tramite Pontificium Consilium de Cultura
<cultura@cultura.va>)" <COOPER@amslr.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <africa@cultura.va>


Dear sir/madam


I hope you could help me.  I have been reading up on English history, and
in particular the battle of Hastings in 1066AD where
the Norman ruler William the conquerer with the then popes blessing
invaded England killing the English King Harold Godwinson, who famousely
got an arrow in the eye.  

It is said that upon his victory William in
gratitude to the pope sent him Harolds banner or standard.

My querey on an historical note is, is there any record of this
standard/banner?

At this time the flag of England may have been a dragon possibly a two
legged dragon in gold or white as on the Beyaux tapistery could it have
been this?  Harolds personnel banner was 'the fighting man' could it have
been this?

I know it is a long time ago but would there be any records recording this
transaction or even some dusty old flag lying around in a vatican vault.

This would be a most amazing piece of historical/cultural information that
i and numerouse other English like minded people would love to hear of.
The Anglo Saxons formed the English people to know what their
banner/standard looked like would give the English a new thirst for
learning of where we came from and who we were.

My very sincere thanks for your time

Andrew Cooper Wakefield Yorkshire ENGLAND




I then got the following reply;

Dear Mr Cooper

You might want to write a letter to
Rev. Mgr. Charles Burns
Apostollic Protonotary
Ecclesiastical councillor
British Embassey to the Holy See
Palazzo Pallavicini
via XXIV Maggio
43 00187 Rome

[Andy]

Found this might be worth a try.?

• Her Majesty's Ambassador to the Holy See:
  
• 
  Nigel Marcus Baker OBE MVO

Address:

Via XX Settembre 80A
I - 00187 Rome

Email: HolySee@fco.gov.uk

[Oath-Bearer]

Thanks Andy, I'll certainly look into it and try and dig up some more info but i'm not sure about how the Vatican would feel about giving back a gift, if they take offence then we may have to get a petition together or even worse, get the government involved.

Thanks for the details, i'll see if I can get hold of that guy

[Guthlac]

Very good video USB, good on you . In a short video I think you covered the nuts and bolts of it all.

I will be forwarding it mate.

[Andy]

 Oath-Bearer, on 19 February 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

Thanks Andy, I'll certainly look into it and try and dig up some more info but i'm not sure about how the Vatican would feel about giving back a gift, if they take offence then we may have to get a petition together or even worse, get the government involved.

Thanks for the details, i'll see if I can get hold of that guy

First thing is to find out if they do have it or at least a record of it.

That would be enough to cause a surge in interest in our last English king and the true flag of England.
If they only have a record it may give a description which confirms the Bayeux tapestry version.

After confirmation of them having it we can look at getting back what is rightfully an English item stolen by a userper.

[Andy]

Then there is this;

http://www.archivios...ovaticano.va/en



There may even be documents of the discussions between the then pope and William the Conquerer prior to his invasion which could shed light on the reasons why the then pope gave William approval to invade England.

[Unbroken Shieldwall]

Thanks Dave,Andy and Guthlac. I'll will be buying a better mic for future videos.

[Aengifu]

Good stuff, Smitty.  It cuts off suddenly during your last sentence, though.

[Staff of England]

Very well presented, clear and concise, you should be proud.

Thank you,
SoE

[Waiguurd]

Eala Smitti
Þú hæfest sum beorhtes cýðing gebisenende.
That's all true, a tremendous statement and I'll hope the Engliscwill achieve  their goal

Gõdne dæg broþor

[Swaffington]

Well said, its nice to hear from someone who feels the same way as me.