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Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:09 PM

Nothing great about the Democrats SoE, Democrats invented the Klu Klux Klan and opposed all anti-slavery legislation, and were against much of the civil rights legislation as well. Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every piece of civil rights legislation from the 1860’s to the 1960's.

In a nutshell:

• The Republican Party - From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks.

• The Democratic Party - As author Michael Scheuer stated, the Democratic Party is the party of the four S’s: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

Slavery - Democrats fought to expand it, Republicans fought to ban it

Democrats formed the Confederacy, seceded from the Union and fought a Civil War - a war where over 600,000 citizens were killed, including many thousands of blacks - in order to keep blacks in slavery because the Democrats had built their economic base on the backs of black slaves.

Democrats enacted Fugitive Slave laws to keep blacks from escaping from plantations and instigated the 1856 Dred Scott decision which legally classified blacks as property.

The Party of Lincoln:

The Republican Party was started in 1854 as the anti-slavery party by abolitionists opposed to keeping blacks in human bondage, and Republicans, under the leadership of President Abraham Lincoln, fought to free blacks from slavery.

After the Civil War, Republicans amended the US Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan in 1866 to lynch and terrorize Republicans - black and white - and to drive Republicans out of the South.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:40 PM

obama gives away nuke secrets
http://news.investor...nse-secrets.htm

http://p.washingtont...5329133/?page=2

http://news.investor...reach-china.htm

http://zerohedge.blo...s-to-china.html

http://www.renewamer...ns/zieve/110206

I could add more.

clinton wasn't any better
http://archive.newsm...1999/3/11/55955

http://www.clintonme...nt_foreign.html
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 02:39 AM

View PostHarold Godwinsson, on 28 January 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

Yes, it was me who gave you the negative point, why?

Because i don't like Liberal/Left Marxist Numpties who put Obuma the Coco Pop into the White/Burnt House...... And i believe you are one of em..

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HG et al,

You must understand that new new lingo (last decade or so) thrown out here (Nunpties, Coco Pop, Orcs etc.) is wasted on me, I come from an older time when the slang I am used to is now antiquated methinks.

I an not Marxist, or any other form of socialism, as I pointed out elsewhere here I grew up in a working-class envirenment but was raised Conservative, and I am to this day.  I have owned a retail business since 1981 and have always had a strong work ethic, thanks to my parents and my being surrounded  by the failings of the Labour gvt. that showed be first hand why it does not work.

Non-white aggression, rape etc. is a deplorable thing, as was the rape and horrors committed by white colonials all over the World (Aztek and Inca genocide for example) and I do agree fully with you that these things are unacceptable, I sincerely DO sympathise with the situation in England.

i have often been accused of having a 'strange' sense of humour, my lady just tells people it is because I am English and 'it is a cultural thing'.  The lynching etc. I do not find amusing at all when used in this place to try to get a viewpoint over.

Arizona has the same problem as California and Florida, the social services are bankrupt with 'latino' overload, they are a leech on society and their numbers are growing, as is the proportion to 'whites', and native americans.  Speaking of Arizona: Anyone who challenges the incumbent government or president to have the 'right' to be there is lawfully elected by a majority should look at an passage of arizona recent history that gives a mirror image of the situation.  A few years ago the Superbowl was destined for greater Phoenix, and during this time there was a plebecite to remove Martin Luther King Day from the list of legal holidays, the vote was in favour of removing said date from the State's calender. In turn the NFL told the people of Arizona that if the new law was put into effect that they would not allow the Superbowl to take place there, the organisers of the game gave in to their demands, thereby showing how little value was placed on the lawful passage of a new law. The people's voice was disregarded, for financial reasons only.
Ditto with President Obama, he was elected with a majority of the vote and should be accepted as such, searching through every rubbish bin to find anything to 'pin on him' is petty and pathetic, 'Swift Boat For Truth' anyone?

One of the successes of this president was to turn around many of the financial disasters left by Bush, the mortgage crisis was under instigated Bush's watch as was the start of the spiral of deficits due to illegal wars and insider trading. we were left with growing unemployment which has now turned the corner for the better with many indicators that we are coming out of the mess. All this with an obstructionist right stopping all attempts to get the economy better just to score personal political points and not allowing Mr Obama to continue his work (they would hate for him to succeed which is apparent).

If you do not agree with something does this give you the right to beat or kill someone because of it?  I am not gay, don't like it, and have a hard time understanding it, but they are people with a different life to mine.

Now apparently some here believe me to not be English, I fail to see how you can come to such a point of view based on a heated discussion. I do not profess to understand how bad things are in England tight now but I really do throw myself on the side of the true English. As I grew up in England I witnessed a change, long before the swelling of the non 'white' population to as it is now, blunders of the Labour Party in the 60s, the coal strikes and attendant social unrest between unions and citizens, long live Maggie Thatcher. The England I knew as a child is long gone it seems, I dream of a place where much of the positives of the 50s were extant.

I do not have to prove myself as true English to anyone, my heart and soul are true and on our visits I feel recharged and whole.

I wish you all well, regardless of any vitriol that may come my way.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 08:03 AM

Staff, I understand your opinion though cant agree with the conclusions of it, I consider you blind to the forces affecting the people of both the US and England, its essentialy the same one. Either that or you are just plain confused because you believe all the propaganda.
You choose to ride roughshode over all the freedoms that our forefathers and ancestors have fought and died for.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 09:21 AM

'Long live Maggie Thatcher'.  You really have lived outside the Uk for a long time.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 10:48 AM

View PostStaff of England, on 29 January 2012 - 02:39 AM, said:

HG et al,

You must understand that new new lingo (last decade or so) thrown out here (Nunpties, Coco Pop, Orcs etc.) is wasted on me, I come from an older time when the slang I am used to is now antiquated methinks.

I an not Marxist, or any other form of socialism, as I pointed out elsewhere here I grew up in a working-class envirenment but was raised Conservative, and I am to this day.  I have owned a retail business since 1981 and have always had a strong work ethic, thanks to my parents and my being surrounded  by the failings of the Labour gvt. that showed be first hand why it does not work.

Non-white aggression, rape etc. is a deplorable thing, as was the rape and horrors committed by white colonials all over the World (Aztek and Inca genocide for example) and I do agree fully with you that these things are unacceptable, I sincerely DO sympathise with the situation in England.

i have often been accused of having a 'strange' sense of humour, my lady just tells people it is because I am English and 'it is a cultural thing'.  The lynching etc. I do not find amusing at all when used in this place to try to get a viewpoint over.

Arizona has the same problem as California and Florida, the social services are bankrupt with 'latino' overload, they are a leech on society and their numbers are growing, as is the proportion to 'whites', and native americans.  Speaking of Arizona: Anyone who challenges the incumbent government or president to have the 'right' to be there is lawfully elected by a majority should look at an passage of arizona recent history that gives a mirror image of the situation.  A few years ago the Superbowl was destined for greater Phoenix, and during this time there was a plebecite to remove Martin Luther King Day from the list of legal holidays, the vote was in favour of removing said date from the State's calender. In turn the NFL told the people of Arizona that if the new law was put into effect that they would not allow the Superbowl to take place there, the organisers of the game gave in to their demands, thereby showing how little value was placed on the lawful passage of a new law. The people's voice was disregarded, for financial reasons only.
Ditto with President Obama, he was elected with a majority of the vote and should be accepted as such, searching through every rubbish bin to find anything to 'pin on him' is petty and pathetic, 'Swift Boat For Truth' anyone?

One of the successes of this president was to turn around many of the financial disasters left by Bush, the mortgage crisis was under instigated Bush's watch as was the start of the spiral of deficits due to illegal wars and insider trading. we were left with growing unemployment which has now turned the corner for the better with many indicators that we are coming out of the mess. All this with an obstructionist right stopping all attempts to get the economy better just to score personal political points and not allowing Mr Obama to continue his work (they would hate for him to succeed which is apparent).

If you do not agree with something does this give you the right to beat or kill someone because of it?  I am not gay, don't like it, and have a hard time understanding it, but they are people with a different life to mine.

Now apparently some here believe me to not be English, I fail to see how you can come to such a point of view based on a heated discussion. I do not profess to understand how bad things are in England tight now but I really do throw myself on the side of the true English. As I grew up in England I witnessed a change, long before the swelling of the non 'white' population to as it is now, blunders of the Labour Party in the 60s, the coal strikes and attendant social unrest between unions and citizens, long live Maggie Thatcher. The England I knew as a child is long gone it seems, I dream of a place where much of the positives of the 50s were extant.

I do not have to prove myself as true English to anyone, my heart and soul are true and on our visits I feel recharged and whole.

I wish you all well, regardless of any vitriol that may come my way.

If you have noticed Arizona and other states have asked and demanded the duly elected president to follow the law on the illegals.
They have been obstructed at every turn. Lawsuits filed by the federal government and other governments preventing the states from enforcing immigration law.

You claim to be conservative , yet you defend obama. Apparently there's another definition for conservative that I'm unaware of..
Also obama's obstructionists were all Democrat until the House went majority Republican in November 2010.
He could have passed any law he wanted and couldn't do anything worthwhile with his own party in control.
Keep your eye on Iran, will he start a war or let Iran cut off the oil?
When you mix political correctness with capitalism, well, you already stated what happens and you are no doubt aware of the demographics of the NFL.
But now all of a sudden, these duly elected representatives are wrong in their repeal of a holiday for a troublemaker.
If you'd like to do a little research you'll find barney frank, a Democrat was the major player in the mortgage crisis. By the way, he's gay too and about to be married.
I can't seem to find the information on the housing recovery or any other for that matter.
No one had to go through the rubbish. obama has stated  in his book, bogus short form birth certificate, and the bogus long form birth certificate that his father was Kenyan.
Presidential candidates must be a natural born citizen according to article ll section 1 of the Constitution.
Just another piece of the Constitution shredded, and an, in your face and what are you going to do about it, act.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:13 AM

Staff, Answer Southerner's posts, and the above post by Steven, they know more about the so-called Democrats than you seem to..

If you are from England then you would understand English Humour, yet you seem to show misunderstanding of its dark side..

I'd also like the mention your confusion of who you are in your Identity I.E. Romany, or Jipo, Norman, Celt, and so on... So which inch of you is actually Englisc?

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Maggie Thatcher? Oh you mean the Bitch who saw the Argies making threats towards the Falklands, her popularity was down so like her other half in Argentina decided to get a little War going...

Was it not her government who were cutting the Navy at that same time... Then afterwards, suddenly she was on the up again 'The Iron Lady!' Bull Shit...

Coco Pop, meaning Half Cast....Cheche! a Coffie!

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 03:58 PM

In the case of Democrat/Republican i only use these instances as a choice of "lessor of two evils" which is our lot in this so called democracy.

Maggie Thatcher I salute for her resolve in confronting and beating the stated intent of the trade union movement to destroy the country and construct a permanent socialist state, the unions, as the political arm of the trade union movement, had power, influence and muscle to do such a thing. This and her work, her conservative ways and in the situations at the time she was the only answer.  Argentina started this conflict, Galtieri's power was threatened and the country was in a decline during his presidency, HIS way out was the Falklands.

My identity! Well I actually have no clue of the ethnicity of my birth family let along ancestors, how can any of us from the Isles know for sure, again I was generalising and using what little knowledge of the peoples who traversed the place in the past, Etruscan is my spiritual ancestory, Romany influence can be found everywhere.

osgar, I am aware of the forces in action against the people of England, not to the degree of the majority here (one of the reasons I am here is to learn more) I am merely responding to what I see on the surface and my personal perspective. I also have no intent to devalue or ignore the past and those that have brought us to where we are now, please do not think i am not on your side, my responses to certain posts may not resonate with you all but I do support the essence of all your goals and dreams.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 05:29 PM

Staff my friend,
Our goals are toward not dreams but the halting of nightmares. Our dream is a plan toward the re-establishment of the older logic and worth free from traitors that con us while we loose our own ethnic and ethic identity. In my mind there is no greater traitor than the one that plots the downfall of the people while calling them brothers. The multitude of videos posted on here clearly show there is a problem not just here bit world wide. I dont like being treated like a twat and I am afraid that is what we are being treated as by our agenda lead leaders.

I know you are an Englishman but when you come over I think the scene before your eyes will indeed confirm the media agenda to hide the extent of the problems here. Looking forward to seeing you by the way.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:58 PM

Can someone please give be the accepted definition of 'troll' in it's use on a site like this? Having beenaccused of being such an entity I would like to know what i am accused of and why.
Thank you in advance
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:30 AM

Staff,
I know you are not a troll but you must remember that many people here have seen the hidden agendas of our political leaders becoming transparent over time. Even so they continue to favour evil scum over the bread winers of the respective countries.
To some extent the Anglo-Saxons are much the same s the white man in the USA, a migrant but then one must figure that both built on what was there for a better social evolement and expanding system. Now look at the shit they, the politicos, have draged us into but they never seem to suffer only prosper at our expense.
If as your friend I may say it without any offence being taken by yourself I would have to say this;
What is seen as virtues IE fair play and reasoning have had their day in this current system. Since I have known you you have looked at all the angels for logic. This is not one of our esoteric forums and there is no mystery to fathom. The hidden things of this issue are now in plain sight and the people will be the ultimate victims. The information from people to quickly labeled as racists is easy to ignore as the waffling of the far right but think of it now like this;
Those erstwile putdowns are now backed up by people thatant be t ino the sinhead knckle dragging steriotypes. even now with these credited people affirming our claims we are still being side-lined and ignored.
Staff,
the time is now to fight for our rights as a people and our survival, see the statistics here on this forum. The truh held here is that w need to be 100% for ur peple an our cause, to questn it beggars the return question 'why bother being here unless to disrupt the forum, as would a troll.

As always your friend,

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:51 AM

View PostEassex cempa, on 30 January 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Staff,
I know you are not a troll but you must remember that many people here have seen the hidden agendas of our political leaders becoming transparent over time. Even so they continue to favour evil scum over the bread winers of the respective countries.
To some extent the Anglo-Saxons are much the same s the white man in the USA, a migrant but then one must figure that both built on what was there for a better social evolement and expanding system. Now look at the shit they, the politicos, have draged us into but they never seem to suffer only prosper at our expense.
If as your friend I may say it without any offence being taken by yourself I would have to say this;
What is seen as virtues IE fair play and reasoning have had their day in this current system. Since I have known you you have looked at all the angels for logic. This is not one of our esoteric forums and there is no mystery to fathom. The hidden things of this issue are now in plain sight and the people will be the ultimate victims. The information from people to quickly labeled as racists is easy to ignore as the waffling of the far right but think of it now like this;
Those erstwile putdowns are now backed up by people thatant be t ino the sinhead knckle dragging steriotypes. even now with these credited people affirming our claims we are still being side-lined and ignored.
Staff,
the time is now to fight for our rights as a people and our survival, see the statistics here on this forum. The truh held here is that w need to be 100% for ur peple an our cause, to questn it beggars the return question 'why bother being here unless to disrupt the forum, as would a troll.

As always your friend,

E C

Well EC, thank you for a level headed reply to my bewilderment. Your last comment has been taken to heart, I can see from that angle how one may misconstrue my input here. A caveat here is that there is a section here specifically for counter-arguments, but in my promptings I am first and foremost looking for answers to the plight on MY people.

I am here to read and learn and try to understand the scope and complexity of the changes in England, if I offer some perspective and am corrected then so be it. But I am not here to disrupt, if my perspective is seen as at odds with some here then know that it is bourne out of a concern.

I am obviously out of date in many things English, the last time I spent any decent amount of time in Bighty was 10 years ago and even then I witnessed my old haunts changed in both structure and 'colour'. Again I hope to have my gaps filled in so to speak.

Wassail as ever

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 03:16 PM

UPDATE: Obama Georgia Ballot Eligibility Hearing - Sher Zieve

There seems to be some confusion regarding what happened after the 26 January Obama-eligibility Georgia ballot hearings conducted in Deputy Chief Judge Michael Malihi’s court. Part of the reason for the confusion may be that a seeming mountain of evidence was presented in Sand to the court, along with answers given by expert witnesses as to Mr. Obama’s original and current ineligibility to hold the Office of President of the United States. The problem with his even being allowed to run for the office in the first place appears to be the incontrovertible fact that he was never vetted as to his eligibility. Those who wished to actually check Candidate Obama’s qualifications for the highest post in the USA were defamed and mocked by the media.

Currently, articles claiming that Obama’s name has, already, been disallowed from appearing as a presidential candidate on the Georgia ballot are inaccurate. What has, thus far, occurred are the following.

1. During the 26 January hearing, three attorneys (including Attorney. Orly Taitz who was the primary attorney and instrumental in bringing this case to the court) brought witnesses and evidence before Judge Malihi’s court strongly suggesting Mr. Obama does not meet the Constitutional requirements to hold the Office of President of the United States of America

2. Prior to the hearing, all three attorneys met with Judge Malihi in his chambers

3. After the hearing was concluded, Judge Malihi asked all pleading attorneys to present summaries of their cases to him by 5 February

I spoke with Attorney Taitz on Saturday 28 January and she indicated that Judge Malihi has expedited his recommendation/ruling and has reset the date of attorney submissions to 1 February. She also indicated that multiple viewing courtrooms were packed during the hearing and that at least twenty Security Guards were present. Judge Malihi advised he hopes to submit his recommendation to Secretary of State Brian Kemp - as to whether or not Mr. Obama is qualified to appear on the State of Georgia’s ballot as a presidential candidate - as quickly as possible.

Note: Many judges and their families appear to have been under multiple threats from the Obama administration, if they failed to follow through with Mr. Obama‘s orders. As an additional side note, a recent investigation uncovered numerous threats to Glenn Beck’s staff from one of Mr. Obama’s mentors and frequent Obama White House visitor multi-billionaire George Soros. Even after Beck left Fox News to pursue his own Internet network and other ventures, President of America’s Survival, Inc. (ASI), a public policy organization, Cliff Kincaid reports that the Soros people are still after Beck for exposing the Soros and Soros-Obama schemes to destroy our country. Recently, Beck’s staff has come under fire from the Soros syndicate and the life of at least one investigative reporter on Beck’s staff and her child have been threatened.

These “New World Order” people play for keeps and will apparently do anything and everything to shut down any and all truth in their determination - as Soros alludes to - to rule the world. We can only pray that Judge Malihi and the State of Georgia will remain strong and courageous in their efforts to uphold the truth. Please remember:

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:53 PM

View PostStaff of England, on 28 January 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

This is not a fight 'white' non-indiginous peoples against 'blacks' who were forcibly removed from their homeland and taken as slaves into a country 'occupied' by colonials. if any 'fight' should be waged in the US then it should be against ALL politicians who pander to the 'latino vote' and tell their local constituents that strong immigration controls and removal of (18 million) illegal immigrants from south of the border.

The whole President Obama/birth certificate is an effort to diminish the success he has had so far rebuilding the destruction done by the prior occupant of the White House. Just as Bill Clinton's huge successes while in office left the right with only one option to attack him; a meaningless and tardy affair. The right just cannot stomach a D president having visible positive effect on the overall populace and turn to whatever form of attack they can, baseless or not. The Xtian church still has huge power, particularly via their organ of action, the Republican Party.

I do not subscribe to or promote killing or 'lynching' anyone due to political reasons, if this was a joke then it should not have posted in a 'news' section, and having had a friend of mine set on by a mob of 'locals' in as small town in OK because he was gay and badly beaten I will not accept this as a viable answer to a political difference.

I beg to differ on so many items listed here.

1) Bill Clinton was NOT the reason for the economic boom in the 90's. This LIE has been spewed more times than I can recall. Bill Gates & the explosion of the internet & the resulting commerce was the reason for this. If Clinton wants credit for keeping his hands off of it - fine - but he was not behind the prosperity in the 90's.

2) On a personal note, I was in school and had a part time job during this time and I also got married while Clinton was in office. My tax bill the following year was ASTRONOMICAL!!! The Mrs. & and I had to take out a small loan just to pay the Gestapo, excuse me, the I.R.S.

3) For those of you who don't know, while Clinton was in office, he gave us a woman named Doris Meissner. Doesn't ring a bell? She was the woman in charge of what used to be called I.N.S. and she was the one who, in 1997 procalimed, "Hopefully we've accelerated the process whereby this country will reflect more of the real world with regrads to it's ethnic and racial makeup." this was stated in the context of her removing most of the immigration restrictions previously put in place by Reagan. This rag is is the main reason we're in trouble immigration - wise. Yes I know, others have contributed to the problem, but take a look at the numbers and you'll find that the biggest spike up until recentley has been on her watch.

3) I was not a big fan of "W", but it was either him or that dumbass Gore, who has the beffudled expression of the guy we all knew in English II, who really should have repeated English I. Two years of "W" and my personal income tax went down by almost twenty percent. Clinton was always going on and on about how he was the friend of the little guy, my wife and I's combined salary for most of that time was around 67k and they were taking almost 19% in federal taxes right off the bat.

4) So in closing if you were a minority, or a reprobate during the 90's, Clinton was your guy. But if you were any one else, you had a target painted on your back.

5) As for the whole Surplus/balanced budget items. were it not for a conservative congress dragging him kicking and screaming the whole way, it never would have happened.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:55 PM

I do not, however condone the beating of someone for the above reasons you mentioned and I am sorry for your friend.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 01:37 AM

Media Blackout in Obama Georgia Ballot Eligibility Case - American Thinker

Last week, I noted that Obama turned his back not just on Arizona's Governor Jan Brewer, but also on the laws of the State of Georgia.  I closed my column, "Georgia Ballot Challenge: Obama Walks on By," with the observation: "And most of the media has followed along right behind him."

At the time, I had just witnessed an historic hearing that actually discussed the eligibility of the sitting president of the United States to run for a second term.  The president had been subpoenaed to appear, and instead of his attorney respectfully following protocol to have that subpoena recalled, both Obama and his attorney, Michael Jablonski, simply failed to show up at all or offer any defense whatsoever.

Isn't there a headline in there somewhere?

The hearing proceeded as planned, even though the table for the defense was empty.  Attorneys Van Irion and J. Mark Hatfield presented their cases first and offered compelling arguments -- not regarding Obama's birthplace, but rather that the non-U.S. citizenship of Obama's father precluded Obama's "natural born" eligibility under the Constitution and existing Supreme Court precedent.  Attorney Orly Taitz, however, did present interesting evidence that questioned the validity of Obama's birth certificate and questions surrounding his Social Security number.

When the hearing ended, the media in attendance almost literally pounced on Taitz.  Irion and Hatfield and their clients had left the premises earlier, while Taitz was still presenting her case; however, Irion asserted to me that not one member of the press stopped them on their way out.  Doubtless the media did not want to discuss the law -- they'd rather write their usual stories on the birth certificate and interview the one they've dubbed the "birther queen."

Attorney Taitz handled herself well, even though the press taunted her with rudeness and leading questions she has doubtless experienced many times.  After the reporters finished letting Taitz feel the full extent of their contempt for both her and the entire morning's event, they packed up to leave.

I walked up to one particular reporter from one of the prominent mainstream entities, noting that he seemed frustrated that he didn't get a clear answer from Taitz to one of his questions, and I informed him that I did know the exact answer, if he'd like to hear more about it.  He said no, he didn't.  I asked then, wasn't he a reporter, and why did he ask the question if he didn't want the answer?  And as I was speaking, he turned and walked away from me.

The same thing happened with another reporter from another major network.  He had asked Taitz why no one cared that there were past presidents who had fathers not born in the country.  I explained to him that it was not the place of birth of the presidents' fathers that was the issue, but rather the status of their citizenship at the time of their sons' births.  The reporter scoffed and told me that that was just my opinion, but when I attempted to inform him that it was also the opinion of the Supreme Court, he turned and walked away from me while I was in mid-sentence.

Does this behavior seem familiar?

Even though I saw reporters from every major network on the scene, the actual reporting of the event was scant - primarily only in blogs or local news. Google "Georgia Ballot Challenge" and note the non-mainstream coverage of the event.

Rachel Maddow must not have gotten the memo, though, because she dedicated a full 8 minutes of her January 26 show to telling her viewers why they should "feel almost duty-bound as a patriot to ignore" the hearing and not to "dignify this nonsense or elevate it by paying it any attention."  Not only were none of the legal points addressed in the hearings brought up by Maddow, but Maddow excused the extraordinary fact that Obama and his counsel, instead of respecting the law, had simply snubbed it, calling the case "ridiculous."

As Sunny of Sunny TV points out in this hilarious but uncomfortably true video, "Tyranny is as Tyranny Does"; "[l]et's just hope the next President is just as benevolent as Obama because they could really use that power for bad."  At the end of the clip, as Sunny pretends she is Obama, issuing orders right and left, she points to her crown and says: "This makes me in charge."  As Teri O'Brien noted in her interview discussing Obama's penchant for walking away from those with whom he disagrees, "[g]ods don't debate.  They issue decrees."

Attorney Irion, in this follow-up letter from his Liberty Legal Foundation, pointed out: "Yesterday President Obama completely ignored a court subpoena, and the world shrugged."

Yes, Obama shrugged, and the media has shrugged along. Irion further noted:

Obama's behavior yesterday is even more disturbing than Nixon's. Nixon at least respected the judicial branch enough to have his attorneys show up in court and follow procedure[.] ... Nixon acknowledged the authority of the judicial branch even while he fought it. Obama, on the other hand, essentially said yesterday that the judicial branch has no power over him. He ordered his attorneys to stay away from the hearing. He didn't petition a higher court in a legitimate attempt to stay the hearing[.] ... Rather than respecting the legal process, Obama went around the courts and tried to put political pressure directly on the Georgia Secretary of State. When that failed, he simply ignored the judicial branch completely.

It is disconcerting to see that the president, whose primary duty is to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, has turned his back on the rule of law of one of those states.  Especially, as Sunny uncomfortably reminded us, since this is the same president who routinely sidesteps the law or places himself above it.

Even more troubling is the fact that the mainstream media not only seems to approve - but they fail to report it at all.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:19 AM

“Our President openly showed that he believes he is completely above the law. I wonder if the court even noticed its own death certificate. We will see in a few days.”

Fellow Constitutionalists,
One of my earliest childhood memories is of my parents talking about Nixon and the Watergate scandal. I remember the newspaper headline: “Nixon Resigns!” President Nixon’s fight against court subpoenas made international news. Yesterday President Obama completely ignored a court subpoena, and the world shrugged.
Obama’s behavior yesterday is even more disturbing than Nixon’s. Nixon at least respected the judicial branch enough to have his attorney’s show up in court and follow procedure. Nixon’s fight in the courts followed existing law. Nixon acknowledged the authority of the judicial branch even while he fought it. Obama, on the other hand, essentially said yesterday that the judicial branch has no power over him. He ordered his attorneys to stay away from the hearing. He didn’t petition a higher court in a legitimate attempt to stay the hearing. Instead he showed complete contempt for the entire judicial branch and for the rule of law. Rather than respecting the legal process Obama went around the courts and tried to put political pressure directly on the Georgia Secretary of State. When that failed, he simply ignored the judicial branch completely.
The rule of law, and our three-branch system of government, now hang in the balance. If the Georgia court issues a ruling on the merits and an order finding Obama in contempt of court, and if that contempt order actually results in real punishment of some kind, then we will still have a Constitutional Republic. If this doesn’t happen, then Obama will have been rewarded for showing complete contempt for the judicial branch.
Understand that the goal of the Georgia ballot challenge was to have a court rule on the merits of the Constitutional question: Does the term “natural born citizen” in Article II of the Constitution, require a Presidential candidate to have two parents that were U.S. citizens at the time the candidate was born? Obama wants to avoid having a court rule on this question. That is why he didn’t show up and ordered his attorneys to not show up. He was hoping that the Georgia court would enter a default judgment rather than rule on the merits. If the court enters a default judgment, Obama will have succeeded in avoiding the Constitutional eligibility question. He will then appeal the default judgment, get the appellate court to suspend the default judgment pending appeal, and then delay the appeal until after the primary. This is undoubtedly Obama’s plan.
If the Georgia Court rules that Supreme Court precedent must be followed and therefore Obama simply does not meet the minimum Constitutional requirements to hold the office of President, then we will at least have succeeded in finding one court in the nation willing to do its job. If that court finds Obama in contempt of court, then we still have three viable branches of government. The Georgia court has the authority to do both of these things. The world should be holding its breath.
Unfortunately the world is apparently unaware that a great Republic is on life support. The Roman Empire died a slow death. It’s death was so gradual that few people living at that time probably noticed the individual events that marked the death throes of that great empire. Apparently the same is true of America. Yesterday marked a stunning turn of events in the constant power struggle between the three branches of our government. Our President openly showed that he believes he is completely above the law. I wonder if the court even noticed its own death certificate. We will see in a few days.
I will certainly try to explain this to the court in our proposed findings of fact and law that the court requested we file before February 5th.
All of your encouragement and prayers have been greatly appreciated. They are needed even more over the next few weeks. This battle is FAR from over. And it has taken on importance beyond what we predicted (which is truly astounding). Please tell everyone you know about Obama’s contempt of the judicial branch. Please explain to them what it really means. Even those that agree with Obama politically and disagree with our ballot challenge should be shocked, appalled, and scared of Obama’s contempt for the judicial system.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:36 AM

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To resist the powerful combination now forming against us will require every man at his place.
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