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[Steven]

Georgia Court Told Obama Slam-Dunk Disqualified - Before It's News

Georgia citizens today delivered sworn testimony to a court that Barack Obama is slam-dunk disqualified from having his name on the 2012 presidential ballot in the state, because his father never was a U.S. citizen, which prevents him from qualifying as a “natural-born citizen” as the U.S. Constitution requires for a president.

The historic hearing was the first time that a court has accepted arguments on the merits of the controversy over Obama’s status. His critics say he never met the constitutional requirements to occupy the Oval Office, and the states and Congress failed in their obligations to make sure only a qualified president is inaugurated. His supporters, meanwhile, argue he won the 2008 election and therefore was “vetted” by America.

The hearing was before Judge Michael Malihi of the Georgia state Office of State Administrative Hearings. In Georgia, a state law requires “every candidate for federal” office who is certified by the state executive committees of a political party or who files a notice of candidacy “shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought.”

State law also grants the secretary of state and any “elector who is eligible to vote for a candidate” in the state the authority to raise a challenge to a candidate’s qualifications, the judge determined.

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WND

Steve

[southerner]

Georgia News





NaturalBornNews—Eligibility Alert!
Looks like the 1/26/12 hearings were a rout for the Obama team, which boycotted the hearings. Judge wanted to issue summary judgment against him. All three plaintiffs’ counsel wanted a public forum to present the damning evidence against the Marxist gusto, which they then proceeded to do with marvelous gusto and a vengeance. Three years of being lied to, mocked, scorned, sanctioned, blocked at every turn ignored or ostracized can do that to you. There are more details to be dealt with before probable unfavorable ruling for Obama. Don’t know if it can be appealed. Once ruling is final, it would be submitted as a recommendation to the Secretary of State for ballot action. There could also be criminal indictments by the AG. Things are getting interesting.

Terry Lakin must be celebrating. Mark Hatfield, Van Irion, Orly Taiz, clients and supporters are on cloud nine. But, it’s to early to declare “Mission Accomplished,” folks. There are battles ahead.

After three and a half frustrating years without previously being able to be heard by Congress or any Federal Court, as well as frustrated efforts at state legislation, inaction on FBI complaints and state officials, the movement is now focusing on dozens of state level ballot challenges. Because these are free of federal court civil litigation constraints, some of them grant instant “standing” and in more hospitable jurisdictions, at that.
Georgia is especially fertile ground and has moved the cases along quickly, brushing aside all of Obama’s bogus motions to dismiss/impede justice– so far. Read more by clicking the Georgia News link above. We hope that you will consider contributing to the legal funds of the brave patriot plaintiffs and their counsel, as well as joining the growing chorus of outraged patriots not requesting, but DEMANDING action on this major miscarriage of justice, of an illegal “President” squatting in the White House.

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Still no mention of the procedings on any of the MSM.
I get the feeling the citizens of the USA are being played like a fiddle.

[osgar]

Ok southerner, its all very interesting but is it actually going to go anywhere or will it all get swept under the carpet like it does in the uk ? Is this event getting any nationwide coverage at all?

[southerner]

osgar, on 27 January 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

Ok southerner, its all very interesting but is it actually going to go anywhere or will it all get swept under the carpet like it does in the uk ? Is this event getting any nationwide coverage at all?

The only TV coverage I saw was on an Atlanta TV station. NO coverage locally or on the national news.
One radio talk show out of Atlanta had a little on it.
They're not even bothering to do any sweeping, just ignoring it.
That's why I holding off on any cheering, I don't trust them.
It was a diversion, a trick, a waste of time, or something.
There may be some fine print in the law since it is the electors that are on the ballot instead of the actual candidate for president.
If anything good comes out of it I will be surprised.

[osgar]

Same as it is here buddy, a nest of fuckin vipers.

[Harold Godwinsson]

Its best to treat all and any who go in for Politics as suspect... This Obuma, especially, he only got through on the back of a Liberal/Left and Black Vote wave, and i believe that election was dubious and fixed to say the least..

We get the same here, its mostly the Muzzies doing that though... So called Democratic Elections these days are a farce a laughing stock....

But i hope Obuma and his supporters are lynched, after being dragged through the States by a rope from the back of a horse..

That would be something to see!

[southerner]

Harold Godwinsson, on 27 January 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

Its best to treat all and any who go in for Politics as suspect... This Obuma, especially, he only got through on the back of a Liberal/Left and Black Vote wave, and i believe that election was dubious and fixed to say the least..

We get the same here, its mostly the Muzzies doing that though... So called Democratic Elections these days are a farce a laughing stock....

But i hope Obuma and his supporters are lynched, after being dragged through the States by a rope from the back of a horse..

That would be something to see!

He couldn't have won without the stupid whites that voted for him.

[Harold Godwinsson]

Yes i mentioned em. the Liberal/Lefties and the escapes from the Hippy years... You know the ones, still wondering around in their 50's pretending to be sycadelic and singing to 'Bob Marly' Songs

Or still clinging onto the *I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony!* while getting high on weed, they are the fools who voted for Obuma, we've got the same Dip Sticks over here, but their in positions of Power now, so you can see, we are both in the Smelly stuff................

Whipple!

[Steven]

Alan P. Halbert, witness to the hearing, writes:

Several back-to-back hearings were held on Thursday the 26^th of January 2012 on the status of whether President Obama is Constitutionally eligible under Article II Sec 1 requirements as a "Natural Born Citizen" and appear on the Georgia primary presidential ballot. This came about by several Citizens filing challenges to Obama being placed on primary ballot with the Georgia Secretary of State Mr. Brian P. Kemp in accordance with Georgia election law. Obama had been given an Order to appear along with the production of documents by the presiding

Administrative Law Judge assigned to hear the matter, the Honorable Michael Malihi. Obama and his Attorney chose not to comply with the Court's Order, provide the documents, present a defense or attend the hearing. Obama's attorney Mr. Jablonski chose instead to send a letter to Mr. Kemp requesting that the hearing be dismissed, as they claimed the Court did not have jurisdiction to hear the matter and that they would not attend if it was held as scheduled. Mr. Kemp responded with his regrets that they decided to forgo the Hearing and warned them "they did so at their own peril" if they failed to offer evidence disputing the allegation of the Citizens complaints.

The election of a President is done through the compilation and aggregation of the individual State Election returns which have the responsibility under the Constitution to conduct Elections. It most assuredly is a Citizen's Right to inquire into the Constitutional qualification of any Candidate to hold any elected office in Georgia whether it is a State or Federal Office which includes the office of President. This is also the case with the other forty nine States as well which have similar Statutes.

The evidence that was presented was varied and ran the gamut of the factual legal arguments to evidence of a personal nature attributed personally to Obama. Mr. Van Irion of Liberty Legal Foundation presented the facts of Minor V. Happersett and portrayed it front and center as to the definition of a "Natural Born Citizen" and as definitive from a unanimous ruling by SCOTUS in 1875 - the legal heart of the matter. An Amicus Brief was filed in the case by Leo Donofrio Esq. and would be considered an authoritative discussion of the natural born citizen issue and its common law lineage. Each attorney (three in all) in due course presented their cases then rested as the next one presented the case; it appeared well coordinated among all attorneys.

Most all of the testimony was given by expert witnesses, except for the foundation testimony of the citizens that brought the actions; document experts on the authenticity of Obama's Birth Certificate, the Social Security number he uses (used on tax returns) and his and his mother's passport records. A private investigator testified that his Social Security Number (SSN) was originally issued to a deceased individual born in 1890, and was issued from Connecticut a State he is never been known to inhabit.

Orly Taitz, the last attorney to present her case, has been the subject of considerable criticism of her character by various persons during her four year ordeal stretching back to 2008 when she started down this road with Obama. She drew considerable ire and vitriol from Mr. Jablonski, in his letter to Mr. Kemp requesting the dismissal of the hearing. Her case was developed with credible skill however lacked the polish of an experienced litigator. Though appeared solid in evidentiary value and her presentation of the facts were damning. It was probably for the personal nature of her inquiry of Obama and his credentials which drew such criticism from others along the way and Obama's attorney in particular.

She presented through direct testimony the opinions of several document experts that declared the Birth Certificate presented by Obama last April as having the hallmarks of an assembled or false document, as it was layered similar to what would be produced with modern computer software, and not a simple copy of an official record from 1961. He also discussed anomalies of certain character spacing which would not have been present or possible with the typewriters of the 1960's. This layering issue was further verified by another expert witness for document scanning technology and his conclusion was that his long form birth certificate appeared to be falsified as well by certain abnormal patterns appearing in his Birth Certificate.

The compilation of this information was then verified by another expert witness, a retired Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) investigator. He testified that the anomalies seen on Obama's records, Social Security Number and birth certificate which had different Registrars for similar certificates that were issued within days of one another was difficult to explain. The out of Sequence birth certificate issuance numbers which were lower than Obama's, though issued several days after his birth, was difficult to explain as these numbers are issued sequentially.

There were issues with the official embossed seal that were not accurate for similar records issued during this time period in Hawaii, his birthplace. He testified that these anomalies rose to the level that would require further investigation, possible arrest and prosecution for documents that had the cumulative defects that Obama's exhibited in similar investigation of false documents.
However, what I find most baffling was the decision of Obama and his Attorney choosing to be absent from the proceedings. However, Judge Malihi conducted the hearing in a manner of decorum and was an honest presentation of the facts. Though was hard to guard against the bias of the parties without Obama and his Council being present.

Many people who are unfamiliar with the Legal System do not know that the hearing or trial level is known as the "trier of the facts". Only matters of Law can be appealed, not the facts that are developed, presented or testified to in any hearing or trial. Only when there is overwhelming evidence of malfeasance, gross perjury or the denial of the admissibility of probative evidence is a new trial or hearing ordered when a mistake of law has been found on appeal. As a practical matter appellate courts rarely order such remedy, when ordered it is believed that the defendant did not have his constitutional right to face his accusers at the trier of the facts level!

Since Obama and his attorney chose not to be present a defense and dispute the evidence that was presented, this can be taken as an admission that all of the evidence admitted were indeed facts and may not be disputed at a later time on appeal! The irony of this course is that Obama is declaring that the court has no Jurisdiction in this matter and will appeal as a matter of law though these damning facts may very well stand! It also gives the impression that he considers himself above the law -- Georgia's. We have a plethora of data points on the sequestering of all of Obama's records and bona fides which he has spent millions of dollars to keep out the public's hands for the last four years. After this hearing we may eventually know why.

Below is a summary list of the physical evidence introduced in yesterday's hearing in GA.

P2. Affidavit of Senior Deportation Officer with the Department of Homeland Security John Sampson, showing that Obama is using Connecticut SSN 042-68-4425

p3. Affidavit of Adobe Illustrator expert Felicito Papa, showing Obama's alleged true and correct copy of his birth certificate to be a computer generated forgery

P4. Affidavit of witness Linda Jordan, attesting to the fact, that SSN 042-68-4425, used by Obama, does not pass E-Verify

p6. Selective service certificate showing Obama using SSN 042-68-4425 and official printout from Social Security Number Verification Services, showing that 042-68-4425 was never issued to Barack Obama, attached e-mail from Colonel Gregory Hollister

p7. Affidavit of Adobe Illustrator expert Felicito Papa, showing that Obama is using CT SSN 042-68-4425 on his 2009 tax returns

p9. Hawaiian birth certificate 61-00637 of Susan Nordyke, born a few hours after Obama in Kapiolani Hospital, looks completely different from alleged copy of birth certificate of Obama

p10. Passport records of Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, mother of Barack Obama, showing Obama listed in her passport under the name Barack Obama Soebarkah, attached affidavit by Chris Strunk, recipient of Obama's passport records under FOIA

p11. Barack Obama's Indonesian school registration card #203, date accepted January 1, 1968, released by the Associated Press in Indonesia, showing him using last name Soetoro and listing citizenship as Indonesian.

Steve

[southerner]

Damning evidence in my opinion.
They've tried to ignore it but hopefully it will bite obama in the end.

[Staff of England]

I fail to see what President Obama's minutia has anything to do with the plight of the English in an England they see eroding around them. Politics goes on and on, accusations and counter-accusations (see Republican debates for a microcosm) and the failure to accept that the majority of the voters made their voices heard.
The same right-wing/tea party/Xtian xealots/rednecks and those who fell victim to the scare tactics of the Bush junta should look at themselves and admit: a. that Bush was given the presidency by the court-system not the people and, b. that without any doubt the Bush administration, cronies and all was the worst to ever serve the USA. What price Bill Clinton now?

Politics in England should overshadow all else in this arena, concentrate your efforts and frustrations there not in a country where money can buy you just about anything, even a Republican president.
When i lived in England it was in a socialist city, I and my family were always Conservative at heart and in management, this ethos served me well then and it does now but we had to suffer the barbs and vitriol of our neighbours. Threatening to truly lynch someone because of an on-going suspicion of possible error in a birth certificate, even if true (clutching at straws) is beyond reason and decency, regardless of your political alignment.

[osgar]

Staff of England, on 28 January 2012 - 06:41 AM, said:

I fail to see what President Obama's minutia has anything to do with the plight of the English in an England they see eroding around them. Politics goes on and on, accusations and counter-accusations (see Republican debates for a microcosm) and the failure to accept that the majority of the voters made their voices heard.
The same right-wing/tea party/Xtian xealots/rednecks and those who fell victim to the scare tactics of the Bush junta should look at themselves and admit: a. that Bush was given the presidency by the court-system not the people and, b. that without any doubt the Bush administration, cronies and all was the worst to ever serve the USA. What price Bill Clinton now?

Politics in England should overshadow all else in this arena, concentrate your efforts and frustrations there not in a country where money can buy you just about anything, even a Republican president.
When i lived in England it was in a socialist city, I and my family were always Conservative at heart and in management, this ethos served me well then and it does now but we had to suffer the barbs and vitriol of our neighbours. Threatening to truly lynch someone because of an on-going suspicion of possible error in a birth certificate, even if true (clutching at straws) is beyond reason and decency, regardless of your political alignment.

Its that sort of attitude that deprives the people of the hard fought for and just laws of their land and ultimatley removes their freedoms, its happened in the US and its happened here.
To ignore constitutional law for you own ends is treason.

[southerner]

Staff of England, on 28 January 2012 - 06:41 AM, said:

I fail to see what President Obama's minutia has anything to do with the plight of the English in an England they see eroding around them. Politics goes on and on, accusations and counter-accusations (see Republican debates for a microcosm) and the failure to accept that the majority of the voters made their voices heard.
The same right-wing/tea party/Xtian xealots/rednecks and those who fell victim to the scare tactics of the Bush junta should look at themselves and admit: a. that Bush was given the presidency by the court-system not the people and, b. that without any doubt the Bush administration, cronies and all was the worst to ever serve the USA. What price Bill Clinton now?

Politics in England should overshadow all else in this arena, concentrate your efforts and frustrations there not in a country where money can buy you just about anything, even a Republican president.
When i lived in England it was in a socialist city, I and my family were always Conservative at heart and in management, this ethos served me well then and it does now but we had to suffer the barbs and vitriol of our neighbours. Threatening to truly lynch someone because of an on-going suspicion of possible error in a birth certificate, even if true (clutching at straws) is beyond reason and decency, regardless of your political alignment.

Didn't mean to hit a nerve with this thread.
Seaxan and others have been kind enough not to complain,
and I try not to post too much of things that only apply over here.
I think it would be an act of futility to try and answer your other points.

I'll just say some of us rednecks don't like the idea of socialism/marxism,
and we damn sure don't want an emperor, elected or not.
I do know I WILL VOTE FOR ANYBODY BUT OBAMA this November.

[Harold Godwinsson]

southerner, on 28 January 2012 - 09:11 AM, said:

Didn't mean to hit a nerve with this thread.
Seaxan and others have been kind enough not to complain,
and I try not to post too much of things that only apply over here.
I think it would be an act of futility to try and answer your other points.

I'll just say some of us rednecks don't like the idea of socialism/marxism,
and we damn sure don't want an emperor, elected or not.
I do know I WILL VOTE FOR ANYBODY BUT OBAMA this November.

No worries Southerner,

This isn't simply an Englisc fight, but an Englisc American fight, a Canadian Englisc Fight, an Ozzy Englisc Fight, in short it includes all of us, its a White Fight, a Fight for the Survival of the White man and our ways, our Heritage, our Culture, our Honour, and our Rights as apart, and the better part of the Human race..

In short Staff, its Southerner's fight as well as ours, get it!!

They two are suffering, not just us, they two have traitors in their midst destroying everything they hold dear, everything they fought for, and everything that makes them who and what they are, just like us...

HG

[Harold Godwinsson]

Threatening to truly lynch someone because of an on-going suspicion of possible error in a birth certificate, even if true (clutching at straws) is beyond reason and decency, regardless of your political alignment.

Ever heard of a joke? A bit of fun? A laugh?

Besides, he's a Coco Pop, he's not a Native of the US, and he's a Politico, and in my view, that makes Obuma, a prime candidate for a good Lynching don't you think, just like Bush, Cameroon, Milipeed, Blair, and the fucking lot, Politico's of any shade or colour they all deserve lynching.........

That goes for Tories as well, not just Lefties, Liberals, or fucking Republicans what ever title Politico's go under!!

[Steven]

Staff of England, on 28 January 2012 - 06:41 AM, said:

I fail to see what President Obama's minutia has anything to do with the plight of the English in an England

First of all SoE this thread is for news items from across the world, anything outside the UK - including Europe. Second, the fact that the most powerful man in the free world has forged his own birth certificate, allegedly, to get into office should be a worry for any sane person. Not this one, obviously:

MCSO: 'Obama Fanatic' Threatened to Kill Arpaio - myFoxphoenix.com

PHOENIX - Maricopa County Sheriff's deputies are working with Knoxville, Tennessee authorities following an investigation into an internet death threat against Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Deputies served a search warrant at 33-year-old Adam Eugene Cox's home. A computer and other evidence was seized.

On Friday, Cox was arrested and taken into custody on an unrelated warrant for assault. He's being investigated as the prime suspect in the Arpaio death threat investigation.

According to MCSO, Cox's postings stated that the Sheriff and his family would be killed:

"I plan to kill Arpaio first. He will be filled with a thousand bullet holes before the year is out. I promise you this. He won’t f*** with Obama. He will be buried 10 feet under and his whole family will be murdered along with him."

The Sheriff's office says Cox may have been incensed by Arpaio's ongoing investigation into the legitimacy of Obama's birth certificate.

"I believe he's OK with criticism, however when criticism turns into potential criminal conduct and his life being threatened or a family member we take action and we do investigate," says Dep. Chief David Trombi.

The sheriff's office served a search warrant at Google’s headquarters in Knoxville for information about the blogger.

Maricopa County deputies are still in Knoxville. They've collected a lot of evidence, including Cox's laptop. They do believe it will be enough to charge him for this threat.

In another recent case, they served a warrant at Google in the Bay area to track down the person behind another recent blog FOX 10 exposed.

It had an image of murdered Sheriff's Deputy William Coleman, with the words: "Officer down, LOL."

It also had an image of Sheriff Arpaio, with the words: "You're next, Joe. Watch your back” and "wanted, dead or alive," with "alive" crossed out.

The blog has been shut down. So far, no arrests have been made in that threat.

"We have to take those threats seriously because the first time that we don't, the first time that we say it's just somebody being a nut or a kook, that's when we have problems," says Trombi.

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Steve

[Staff of England]

This is not a fight 'white' non-indiginous peoples against 'blacks' who were forcibly removed from their homeland and taken as slaves into a country 'occupied' by colonials. if any 'fight' should be waged in the US then it should be against ALL politicians who pander to the 'latino vote' and tell their local constituents that strong immigration controls and removal of (18 million) illegal immigrants from south of the border.

The whole President Obama/birth certificate is an effort to diminish the success he has had so far rebuilding the destruction done by the prior occupant of the White House. Just as Bill Clinton's huge successes while in office left the right with only one option to attack him; a meaningless and tardy affair. The right just cannot stomach a D president having visible positive effect on the overall populace and turn to whatever form of attack they can, baseless or not. The Xtian church still has huge power, particularly via their organ of action, the Republican Party.

I do not subscribe to or promote killing or 'lynching' anyone due to political reasons, if this was a joke then it should not have posted in a 'news' section, and having had a friend of mine set on by a mob of 'locals' in as small town in OK because he was gay and badly beaten I will not accept this as a viable answer to a political difference.

[Harold Godwinsson]

Tough!!

Obuma is not American, and he's a Politico, and Politico's are Evil.....

I this is a fight of 'White' Survival against None White Aggression and rape, beating, mugging among other ill treatment which is generally white washed by the Liberal/Left fucking media and Political Establishment on both sides of the Pond, if you were still in England if you are Englisc you would know...

If your Englisc, which i'm beginning to doubt, then you would understand Englisc Humour, but it is plain you don't understand..

Don't worry, you can watch when Obuma is Lynched by those so-called Rednecks...

HG

[Harold Godwinsson]

Yes, it was me who gave you the negative point, why?

Because i don't like Liberal/Left Marxist Numpties who put Obuma the Coco Pop into the White/Burnt House...... And i believe you are one of em..

How's that for Englisc Humour!!

[southerner]

Staff of England, on 28 January 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

This is not a fight 'white' non-indiginous peoples against 'blacks' who were forcibly removed from their homeland and taken as slaves into a country 'occupied' by colonials. if any 'fight' should be waged in the US then it should be against ALL politicians who pander to the 'latino vote' and tell their local constituents that strong immigration controls and removal of (18 million) illegal immigrants from south of the border.

The whole President Obama/birth certificate is an effort to diminish the success he has had so far rebuilding the destruction done by the prior occupant of the White House. Just as Bill Clinton's huge successes while in office left the right with only one option to attack him; a meaningless and tardy affair. The right just cannot stomach a D president having visible positive effect on the overall populace and turn to whatever form of attack they can, baseless or not. The Xtian church still has huge power, particularly via their organ of action, the Republican Party.

I do not subscribe to or promote killing or 'lynching' anyone due to political reasons, if this was a joke then it should not have posted in a 'news' section, and having had a friend of mine set on by a mob of 'locals' in as small town in OK because he was gay and badly beaten I will not accept this as a viable answer to a political difference.

I would like to hear of some of obama's successes, even one would be nice.
Visible positive effects ?? 45,000,000 on food stamps, unemployment above 8%, $15,000,000,000,000 in debt.
I don't know why anyone would get upset with president clinton getting a knob job in the oval office (sarc).
True blacks were enslaved. Liberia was formed to allow them to form their own country after the Civil War.
They have the freedom today to leave this evil country, but for some reason they don't.
You'll find the obama regieme doing everything possible to help the illegals.
Agreed, other administrations have courted the latino vote.
Apparently you've never heard of Arizona, or know of their  problems.
As for your gay friend getting attacked, I simply do not agree with that lifestyle.