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[Guthlac]

Wilcuma Aelfcynn.

[Andy]

Wilcuma Aelfcynn.

As Harold has alluded to there was no England or Scotland or Wales during Roman times.  The English or as the Roman knew us Anglii lived in what is now known as Denmark, beside the Saxons, Frisians Jutes and other Germanic peoples.

The Scots still lived in Ireland.

When the Romans left the Britains were defencless against raiding parties from northern Britain (Picts not Scots) from the Irish and from the Germanic raiders.

So they called on those Germanic peoples, whom as you have already stated, had manned the walls to come and help protect them.

The Anglii, or in English Angles, settled in the greater numbers, from Northumbria all the way down to Anglia.
The Saxons, Jutes and Frisians settled mostly in southern Britain.

These Anglo Saxons called the British Wealisc (our modern day Welsh: Oh and 'sc' in Old English is pronounced 'sh').

The same time that the Anglo Saxons were settling central and southern Britain the Scots were settling into northern Britain with the Picts.

At first these Anglo Saxon peoples had their own kingdoms, but as the Germanic peoples and the later Danes (also from Denmark) began to intigrate they adopted the name Anglecynn or 'kin of the Angle' this allowed them to retain their sense of being Saxon etc

Eventually the Anglecynn became Anglisc then Englisc.

There we go quick and easy lesson on who we are.

[Andy]

Aelfcynn, on 26 January 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:

I'm from the North, and sick and tired of being called a racist and a Nazi everytime I try and promote English-ness. So I'm here to learn how to 'fight' back - by educating them.
So...hello!

Good for you.  We have been fighting that fight for years and the sheep will come to you when your alone and tell you they agree with you but they wont support you in the argument.

There are plenty of people on here who will help with your debating skills.

Good to have you on board

[Staff of England]

As a recent arrival myself I think you will find this place full of passionate people with a strong will and an unfiltered voice. I welcome this, I hope you do too.

Wassail

[Guy]

Aelfcynn, on 26 January 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:

Good evening folks, I've just found this site, trawling the net looking for other folks proud to be English. I'm from the North, and sick and tired of being called a racist and a Nazi everytime I try and promote English-ness. So I'm here to learn how to 'fight' back - by educating them.
So...hello!

Being on here for the last two years and learning what I have despite getting on in years has stood me in a strong position when fighting our corner. I regularly go onto the Daily Mails website and comment on various stories especially the Independence issue with the sweaties.
When the occasion arises, within a post I inform them of some hardcore Historical facts that obviously hit a nerve, because I haven't had anyone disprove what I have posted or any retaliation because they know I'm quoting facts.

[Sceadugenden]

Aelfcynn, on 26 January 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

I didn't word that very well I'm afraid - I meant the Romans in Britain, that being the earliest period of my country's history that I am interested in, no matter what the land was called at the time. I hope that's clearer - no disrespect meant! And they have had a lasting effect on our landscape. I love the romanticism of the Wall, and the Southern villas. One of the greatest English writers I have read made a career out of telling the Romans' stories and though I agree the Romans themselves were not English, you would have found many peoples among the ranks posted here, including those of Germanic stock. In fact, you could say that the collapse of the Roman Empire led, however indirectly, to the conquest of what-is-now England by the Saxons. If the Romans hadn't totally failed, perhaps the Germanic tribes wouldn't have bothered. Maybe!

First of all welcome, secondly we need more of our people from the far north and thirdly your last two sentences ( which I cannot separate from the rest ) the Romans were worried about us, in fact a whole Province with professional troops had to build  Saxon Shore forts from Brancaster to Portchester , plus the ones on the coast of Gaul , built to protect the coastal areas from prolific Saxon pirates. My theory is if the Romans had not invaded , then the Germanic peoples would taken the majority of these islands and Rome would have been stopped at their invasion point.

[Aldwulf of Wessex]

Wilcuma Aelfcynn.

[Aelfcynn]

Andy, on 28 January 2012 - 03:32 AM, said:

These Anglo Saxons called the British Wealisc (our modern day Welsh: Oh and 'sc' in Old English is pronounced 'sh').

'strangers' or 'foreigners'. Charming buggers aren't we! Turn up in someone else's country and start calling them foreigners.....

At some point, I will learn to read Anglo-Saxon. It's a shame I haven't yet, since both my parents can read it well. But there are only so many hours in the day and I already have Gaelic, Finnish, Latin, Russian, and Icelandic to get through :/ Yeah, I love making work for myself!

[Andy]

Aelfcynn, on 29 January 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

'strangers' or 'foreigners'. Charming buggers aren't we! Turn up in someone else's country and start calling them foreigners.....

At some point, I will learn to read Anglo-Saxon. It's a shame I haven't yet, since both my parents can read it well. But there are only so many hours in the day and I already have Gaelic, Finnish, Latin, Russian, and Icelandic to get through :/ Yeah, I love making work for myself!

Hark at you, clever clogs

While I am still having problems with modern English

[Aelfcynn]

yeah well so would I if my parents weren't language boffs and made sure I was taught well, because school sure as fuck didn't bother! I see their game! Keep people illiterate so they don't have the eloquence to become spokespeople! (I see conspiracies everywhere though so don't listen to me, haha! Wouldn't surprise me if they fed KFC chickens and Maccy D's cows on dope.....)

Still having this wonderful debate about 'English' with people who try to pretend they're on my side by saying 'don't get me wrong, I'm as English as the next person, but....'. OH STFU and know when you're beaten, dickheads!

[KingSaeward]

Welcome Aelfcynn! Nice to see an Englisc lady with some fire in her belly!

I completely understand about state education Aelfcynn, I've been bitter and angry about it since leaving school nearly ten years ago...