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#41 Staff of England

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:23 PM

I am looking for more information on the old 'Angulus' region of Jutland/Danemark. Can anyone shed any light on this for me?

Oh yes, for decades I have got along fine with the Krauts, both in Germany and abroad, ditto Danes, Norge and very much so the Swedes, a comfortable association.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 11:51 PM

Maybe we' re not " English " at the nowadays sense, but you, " the English " are the result of the immigration in 450 A.D. of our common ancestors.

At Sydslesvig (Angeln, Nordfrashlönj) Schleswig-Holstein, even nowadays the tribes are very important and  an origin Sydslesvigsk himself is at first Frisian, Anglisc or Jutish and in the end German, German only as citizenship.

We all together are " Anglisc ". We are brethren.

Here some place names:  Dollerup (former Dolthorp) in Angeln    --   Tholthorp in Yorkshire,  Kilham (Nordfrashlönj, gone down in the North Sea  --  Killham in Northumberland
and Kilham in Yorkshire, Welham, gone down in the North Sea  --  Welham in Leicestershire,     Lintrup (Northslesvig)  --  Linthorp in Yorkshire,
Haistrup (former Haysthorp, Northslesvig)  ---  Haysthorp in Yorkshire,   Lautrup(former Logthorp, Angeln)  ---  Lowthorp in Yorkshire,  Hewer (Nord-
frashlönj)  --- Hever in Kent,   Bau (former Bow, Angeln)  ---  Bow in Middlesex and Devon,  Langham (Nordfrashlönj gone down in the North Sea)  ---
Langham in Norfolk,   Roddam (Nordfrashlönj, gone down in the North Sea)  --  Roddam in Northumberland, Rudham in Norfolk,   Almsted on Alsen --
Elmstead in Kent und in Essex,   Steinham (Nordfrashlönj, gone down in the North Sea)  ---  Stonham in Hants,  Ulsthorp (Angeln)  --  Ulthorp in
Leceistershire,  Reppel (Angeln)  --  Repple in Kent,  Tarbek on Alsen  ---  Tarbik in Worcestershire,  Gjerup(former Gerthorp, Nordslesvig)  --  Gerthorp
in Leicestershire,  Sandwick in Angeln  -- Sandwich in Kent,  Böking in Nordfrashlönj  --  Bucking in Kent,  Milsted in Nordfrashlönj  --  Milstead in Kent.

And so on, there are thousands of similare place names in our countries, also the other similar words in our languages.


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Posted 05 March 2012 - 12:01 AM

View PostWaiguurd, on 04 March 2012 - 11:51 PM, said:

Maybe we' re not " English " at the nowadays sense, but you, " the English " are the result of the immigration in 450 A.D. of our common ancestors.

At Sydslesvig (Angeln, Nordfrashlönj) Schleswig-Holstein, even nowadays the tribes are very important and  an origin Sydslesvigsk himself is at first Frisian, Anglisc or Jutish and in the end German, German only as citizenship.

We all together are " Anglisc ". We are brethren.

Here some place names:  Dollerup (former Dolthorp) in Angeln --   Tholthorp in Yorkshire,  Kilham (Nordfrashlönj, gone down in the North Sea  --  Killham in Northumberland
and Kilham in Yorkshire, Welham, gone down in the North Sea  --  Welham in Leicestershire, Lintrup (Northslesvig)  --  Linthorp in Yorkshire,
Haistrup (former Haysthorp, Northslesvig)  ---  Haysthorp in Yorkshire,   Lautrup(former Logthorp, Angeln)  ---  Lowthorp in Yorkshire,  Hewer (Nord-
frashlönj)  --- Hever in Kent,   Bau (former Bow, Angeln)  ---  Bow in Middlesex and Devon,  Langham (Nordfrashlönj gone down in the North Sea)  ---
Langham in Norfolk,   Roddam (Nordfrashlönj, gone down in the North Sea)  --  Roddam in Northumberland, Rudham in Norfolk,   Almsted on Alsen --
Elmstead in Kent und in Essex,   Steinham (Nordfrashlönj, gone down in the North Sea)  ---  Stonham in Hants,  Ulsthorp (Angeln)  --  Ulthorp in
Leceistershire,  Reppel (Angeln)  --  Repple in Kent,  Tarbek on Alsen  ---  Tarbik in Worcestershire,  Gjerup(former Gerthorp, Nordslesvig)  --  Gerthorp
in Leicestershire,  Sandwick in Angeln  -- Sandwich in Kent,  Böking in Nordfrashlönj  --  Bucking in Kent,  Milsted in Nordfrashlönj  --  Milstead in Kent.

And so on, there are thousands of similare place names in our countries, also the other similar words in our languages.


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What more proof do any of us need for the bond we share?

Now I am curious if there are any such links to be found in Staffordshire.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 12:44 AM

View PostStaff of England, on 05 March 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

What more proof do any of us need for the bond we share?

Now I am curious if there are any such links to be found in Staffordshire.

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Here some Place names in Staffordshire:   Leek, Keel, Handsworth, Hondswoth,  Barslem, Trentham, Stow, Sheen, Glent, Stoke, Litchfield, Talk, All these are from Frisian or Anglisc founded places. All place names with the ending:

--worth, -fleet, -ho, -holt, -thorp, -sted,-stead, -ley, -ey, and -ham

are Frisian , Jutes or Anglisc foundations  Posted Image

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:07 AM

View PostWaiguurd, on 05 March 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

Eala Staff
Here some Place names in Staffordshire:   Leek, Keel, Handsworth, Hondswoth,  Barslem, Trentham, Stow, Sheen, Glent, Stoke, Litchfield, Talk, All these are from Frisian or Anglisc founded places. All place names with the ending:

--worth, -fleet, -ho, -holt, -thorp, -sted,-stead, -ley, -ey, and -ham

are Frisian , Jutes or Anglisc foundations  Posted Image

Cheers
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Wow!  Keele, Burslem and Talke differ slightly from your list but i know them all anyway. Thank you for this.

I was unaware of the affixes you mentioned but seeing them evokes many such places around the shire.

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