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[Andy]

The difference is that this group is protecting its culture, identity and country whilst foreigners are trying to destroy it.






Neo-Nazi death gang who murdered ten are 'greatest far-right threat Germany has faced since downfall of Hitler'


Gang member: Beate Z is in custody on charges of murder, attempted murder, and belonging to a terrorist organisation

Four neo-Nazi murderers hell-bent on building a 'Fourth Reich' in Germany were the biggest extremist threat seen in the country since the demise of Hitler, according to police.
Interior minister Hans-Peter Friedrich spoke of a 'dimension of right-wing terrorism that we have not experienced before'.
The latest racist gang member arrested - identified only as Holger G, 37 - was detained today in Hanover.  
He was seized as the government spoke of the danger of the gang that lurched from flag-waving and immigrant-baiting to bombing, bank robbing and serial murder.
Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger insisted on a speedy and complete investigation in to the series of killings.
'The information that we have so far creates a shocking image,' she said today.
Even Chancellor Angela Merkel, bogged down as she is with the euro crisis, took time out at a conference of her CDU party to say: 'We must be ever vigilant against such forms of extremism on the right.'
Germany is in a state of shock after the sophistication of the Nazi terrorists' plots became known on Friday.






Neo Nazis: Uwe Mundlos, left, and Uwe Boehnhardt committed double suicide after a botched bank robbery on Friday

Headquarters: A police officer digs into the rubble of a destroyed house lived in by two of the terrorists

Two of the gang committed a double suicide after a bank robbery in the town of Eisenach went wrong, killing each other in a mobile home with shots to the head.
Police say they were behind the execution-style killings of nine Turkish businessmen - several of whom owned kebab outlets - because they wanted to terrify the three million Turks who live in the country.

For years, lawmen thought they were dealing with a rogue few. Now the murders seem to have been an attempt to stoke a race war in Germany.
Other outrages include a nail bomb attack on a Cologne street predominantly inhabited by Turkish people in 2004 and an attack on a group of Russian Jewish immigrants at a Düsseldorf train station in 2000.


After last week's suicides, the men's sidekick, only identified as Beate Z, 36, blew up the flat they shared in the eastern city of Zwickau.

Frightening case: Weapons linked to unsolved killings were found at the properties of the gang members

But the rubble was searched and guns linked to killings of immigrant businessmen and a policewoman in Heilbronn were found.
Police have identified the two men as Uwe Boehnhardt, 34, and Uwe
Mundlos, 38.  
Beate Z is now in custody facing charges of murder, attempted murder, and belonging to a terrorist organisation.

All three came from Jena and were known to be active in the Thüringer Heimatschutz, a neo-Nazi clan dedicated to building a 'Fourth Reich,'
since the early 1990s.
Their murders of the businessmen led to the biggest serial killer hunt in German history.  

Militant network: Police search the debris of the burnt house n Zwickau, eastern Germany

Michele Kiesewetter, the policewoman, was killed following a bank raid in 2007 in Heilbronn.
In the kebab shop murder series, nine owners were killed in their stores in Nuremberg, Munich, Rostock, Hamburg, Kassel and Dortmund between September 2000 and April 2006.
The victims were shot at close range in the face in broad daylight in execution-style killings.
Neo Nazi crime remains a serious problem in Germany with an increase in incidents last year as economic woes lure more young people into the clutches of extremists.



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[wesle]

this is a foretaste of things to come i neither condem nor condone this i simply state facts the various european and i have to include britian here have done there utmost to create a situation where events like this are a foregone conclusion so while the german police and goverment are busy patting themselves on the back and using this as an excuse to crack down on nationalist groups wether neo nazi or not the underlying causes go untreated and will continue to fester making it inevitable that things like this will happen again.

[Andy]

Agreed Wesle.  Like yourself I do not condemn or condone.

It is the result of White self haters trying to impose some multi racial identity onto Europe which in reality is an attempted Genocide of a minority racial group, whites are a global minority.

I understand why these right wing Germans took action such as they have and expect to see it on a larger scale as mass immigration of failed nation peoples into Europe continues to undermine our identity, culture and economy.

[southerner]

I agree with yall. I can't condemn or condone either.

Likewise agree that it's just a taste of things to come.

[Aengifu]

Very clever, two of them shooting each other in the head.

[Guthlac]

The state deliberately created the problem through forced immigration, knowing full well what the potential outcome could be. That is why they already had their pc sound bites waiting to be used. I do not condone the murder or agree with such acts. ..When the state ignores the indigenous population and tries to crush them by any means possible, what does it expect. All plain sailing? Pressure cookers blow.

[Witnere]

I can't say I find them or their activities particularly sympathetic. Mass immigration is an unmitigated disaster, even liberals are starting to acknowledge this, but this sort of thing just isn't right. Don't defend the indefensible, we only damage our own cause by doing so. Murder is wrong, no matter the identity of the victim.

[Guthlac]

Witnere, on 14 November 2011 - 11:16 AM, said:

I can't say I find them or their activities particularly sympathetic. Mass immigration is an unmitigated disaster, even liberals are starting to acknowledge this, but this sort of thing just isn't right. Don't defend the indefensible, we only damage our own cause by doing so. Murder is wrong, no matter the identity of the victim.

Yes, there are ways and means to achieve our aims. Murder is not one of them.

[badger]

Right Wing they may be, but I can find nothing at all in this report to link this group with Nazism - Neo or otherwise.

[Andy]

Witnere, on 14 November 2011 - 11:16 AM, said:

I can't say I find them or their activities particularly sympathetic. Mass immigration is an unmitigated disaster, even liberals are starting to acknowledge this, but this sort of thing just isn't right. Don't defend the indefensible, we only damage our own cause by doing so. Murder is wrong, no matter the identity of the victim.

Whereas I do sympathise with their situation.

Unchecked mass immigration, the destruction of the ethnic German peoples just as occuring in England with we ethnic English people.
Like us they are ignored, their voice having no political party to fight their corner.

The only party which fought our corner has been castigated and attacked by the media and politicians.  EIGHT out of TEN people want immigration dealing with yet all our political parties want even more immigrants into our country.
So, if murder and fighting for our country and our nation isnt the answer what is?

[wesle]

its not a question of agreeing with it its simply realising that because of the situation that the goverments of the european continent have done there very best to create it is inevitable that when democracy is ignored there will be a backlash and the worse the ignoring and sidelineing gets the more extreme that backlash will be it would be wonderfull if this could all be sorted out and delt with in a peacefull democratic manner but for that to happen to goverments would have to change the song they have been singing since the 1950,s and can anyone honestly say that is likely to happen unless they are lituarally forced to yet at least here all the mainstream parties all follow the same doctrine and infletrate and subvert any nationalist party that looks like its getting to powerfull so untill that changes there can be no democratic solution simply because they have perverted and subverted democracy making it impossible so ultimately what will happen will be on them.

[Cenyþ]

This old chestnut.

There will come a time - and it seems to be getting here quite quickly - when a force of arms will be the only option left open to us. Whether this be in defence of the land or for our very lives only time will tell.

The talking - begging even - by the people has no effect whatsoever on the politicians who run this country, so unless we decide to shrug, give up and accept what THEY say is an inevitabilty, we will have no other course to follow.

The longer we allow them to fortify and build their hatred and population against us, the worse it will be - I don't think it will be a short, sharp war either, and at the beginning, those that participate will be condemmed as murderers too - but it WILL be a declared war in defence of US.

There is an escalation coming - I see it in correspondance from friends of mine in France and Germany - Belgium is also  suffering - the world we wish to live in is fast disappearing, and the only way it can be stopped is through force.

When it comes, the 'Nationalist Spring' will make the arab spring look like a scout camp!

[Andy]

Cenyþ, on 15 November 2011 - 12:31 PM, said:

This old chestnut.

There will come a time - and it seems to be getting here quite quickly - when a force of arms will be the only option left open to us. Whether this be in defence of the land or for our very lives only time will tell.

The talking - begging even - by the people has no effect whatsoever on the politicians who run this country, so unless we decide to shrug, give up and accept what THEY say is an inevitabilty, we will have no other course to follow.

The longer we allow them to fortify and build their hatred and population against us, the worse it will be - I don't think it will be a short, sharp war either, and at the beginning, those that participate will be condemmed as murderers too - but it WILL be a declared war in defence of US.

There is an escalation coming - I see it in correspondance from friends of mine in France and Germany - Belgium is also  suffering - the world we wish to live in is fast disappearing, and the only way it can be stopped is through force.

When it comes, the 'Nationalist Spring' will make the arab spring look like a scout camp!

I agree.

It saddens me that anyone has to die, but do we English sit back until we become a minority?

Do people here really think that blacks or Asians will be as supportive of the White as we have of them?  For their answer just look at the countries dominated by black or Asian peoples.Failed nation peoples still beheading each other or burning each other because of a stone age mentality.

There was that Breivik in Norway, now these Germans, far right parties are building support across Europe.  These are just the tales we read about.

Though we have to be politically correct in what we say in case we are accused of incitement to violence I too think that 'unfortunately' because the government are ignoring our voice then this race war will happen.

[Mercian]

If the various govts of Europe dont start to get a grip on 3rd world immigration expect more of this.

[Mr West]

Andy, on 15 November 2011 - 12:46 PM, said:

It saddens me that anyone has to die, but do we English sit back until we become a minority?

I agree heavily to this, it's definetely wrong that in order for democracy to take place for the people they may have to resort to losing their lives.

BUT I would rather fight and die then let them scumbags have their way with this country and us English.

[Cenyþ]

badger, on 14 November 2011 - 09:02 PM, said:

Right Wing they may be, but I can find nothing at all in this report to link this group with Nazism - Neo or otherwise.

Badger, you know why that is.

You have been around long enough to know that as soon as any cause is labelled 'Nazi', 'Fascist' or 'Racist' then any support or understanding will vanish like a snowflake on a fire. THAT is why they label groups in this way - to cut their lines of communication, support and recruiting.



Not long until 'Nationalist' will be worn as a badge of pride - but that day will not come for free or a cut price!

[Andy]

Cenyþ, on 15 November 2011 - 02:36 PM, said:

Not long until 'Nationalist' will be worn as a badge of pride - but that day will not come for free or a cut price!

Apart from the likes of us who already wear the badge with pride.

I regularaly call my work colleagues 'sheeple' and tell them that I am a proud Nationalist because unlike them I wish to defend my culture, my identity and my country whilst they suport (by their silence) the destruction of who we are.
I know many of them agree with me but are unable to speak out.

Hopefully they will eventually pick up on my arguments and also speak out.

[Andy]

Mr West, on 15 November 2011 - 02:18 PM, said:

I agree heavily to this, it's definetely wrong that in order for democracy to take place for the people they may have to resort to losing their lives.

Or resort to taking lives because nobody listens to them and their political voice has been destroyed by court actions and abuse.

Mr West said:

BUT I would rather fight and die then let them scumbags have their way with this country and us English.

[Andy]

badger, on 14 November 2011 - 09:02 PM, said:

Right Wing they may be, but I can find nothing at all in this report to link this group with Nazism - Neo or otherwise.

Of course they are Nazi's because they are white.  Im only suprised the photos were not doctored to give them all Adolf Hitler mustaches.

[Rídend]

badger, on 14 November 2011 - 09:02 PM, said:

Right Wing they may be, but I can find nothing at all in this report to link this group with Nazism - Neo or otherwise.

Of course not but we know that this is the typical knee-jerk reaction of using a label with a lot of negative allure: it sounds good, invokes the bogeyman effect, and thus allows authorities carte blanche to deal with these agitators. Few realize there is also the truth that if most who proclaim being neo-Nazis, or are erroneously labeled as such, were to live under National Socialism, they would be the first to be arrested under such a regime. Nothing worse than troublemakers when it comes to dictatorial forms of government.