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[Coenwulf]

ive noticed on the sites forums a certain theme is popping up quite a lot. and that is the theme of Civil war, revolution and rebellion.
After reading about Ragnarok on Youngy's and Saxon pete's heathenism site http://wodenswestwolves.weebly.com (hoping he doesnt mind me posting the site without prior permission) i have come to the personal conclusion that the civil wars may start in 2012 as the start of ragnarok perhaps, that is if ragnarok is even meant to start then! anyone like to offer their thoughts on this matter?

[Fox Spirit]

Coenwulf, on 06 August 2010 - 12:33 AM, said:

ive noticed on the sites forums a certain theme is popping up quite a lot. and that is the theme of Civil war, revolution and rebellion.
After reading about Ragnarok on Youngy's and Saxon pete's heathenism site http://wodenswestwolves.weebly.com (hoping he doesnt mind me posting the site without prior permission) i have come to the personal conclusion that the civil wars may start in 2012 as the start of ragnarok perhaps, that is if ragnarok is even meant to start then! anyone like to offer their thoughts on this matter?

There's a thread on here entitled '2012 and all that'- which dealed with similar theories. Personally, I don't think that we shouldn't believe prophecies and such without a goood reason (which is subjective to what you decide is a 'good' enough reason) but I think that we shouldn't disregard them without a good reason, either.
Two things are certain; the metaphorical s*** will hit the fan sooner or later as it has done for every other civilisation, and we are all going to die. I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you, some things are just inevitable and it is better to accept them and work with what you have. The media latches on to end of world prophecies and dangers to Earth like a parasite, anyway. Years ago there was a report on an asteroid that suddenly went from being something that 'could hit us' to 'might actually hit us' to 'we're all gonna die because of this f***** asteroid!' And all that was in the space of about 24 hours, with very little in the way of support from the people who study these things- basically what they had said about there being a possibility of it hitting us. The media had done the rest.

[Coenwulf]

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There's a thread on here entitled '2012 and all that'- which dealed with similar theories. Personally, I don't think that we shouldn't believe prophecies and such without a goood reason (which is subjective to what you decide is a 'good' enough reason) but I think that we shouldn't disregard them without a good reason, either.
Two things are certain; the metaphorical s*** will hit the fan sooner or later as it has done for every other civilisation, and we are all going to die. I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you, some things are just inevitable and it is better to accept them and work with what you have. The media latches on to end of world prophecies and dangers to Earth like a parasite, anyway. Years ago there was a report on an asteroid that suddenly went from being something that 'could hit us' to 'might actually hit us' to 'we're all gonna die because of this f***** asteroid!' And all that was in the space of about 24 hours, with very little in the way of support from the people who study these things- basically what they had said about there being a possibility of it hitting us. The media had done the rest.
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yeah i think your most probably right. hmmm im not to worried about it, its just a topic i enjoy talking about and seeing peoples opinions on really. plus all the info on the impending civil war seems to coincide very nicely with all the other "Disaster theories" to be honest i kinda want something to happen, maybe then some of this shit can finally get sorted out, and get rid of all the useless lazy tossers

[AelfredSeax]

Yes Coenwulf the subject of Civil War is a popular one, probably because most  feel it is the only solution left. Have you read the Fox's Prophecy ? HERE . It also suggests that change is upon us. Personally i think not if, but when civil war begins it is going to be devistating, so cruel and horrific that many won't be able to handle the concept of it, never mind the physical and mental stress. It will change people beyond recongnition. The problem with any fight what ever scale, is that it is unpredictable, and to be victors we will need to show all the altruism we were once capable of, but sadly have been removed from. I believe mental preperation is utmost.

[Fox Spirit]

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yeah i think your most probably right. hmmm im not to worried about it, its just a topic i enjoy talking about and seeing peoples opinions on really. plus all the info on the impending civil war seems to coincide very nicely with all the other "Disaster theories" to be honest i kinda want something to happen, maybe then some of this shit can finally get sorted out, and get rid of all the useless lazy tossers

There's a programme called the "Nostradamus effect" which deals with end of world prophecies, one episode was heavily focused on 2012- it was aired on the history channel, see if you can find it on youtube.

[Rídend]

As I have said elsewhere about this. . .the mindset is infectious. If you get enough people believing in something, it will become so; a self-fulfilling prophecy. I for one do not think like a sheep so as to go with the flock crying ‘the sky is falling’ à la Chicken Little. Those shows about doom and gloom are all based on poor scholarship, perpetuated fallacies and twisting information towards a predetermined goal, but hey, that makes for good salacious tv. The writers of these shows could give a toss about truth and are more concerned about selling something and ratings. Sorry, I’m not biting nor buying.  

As a heathen the notion of Ragnarökr in 2012 is amusing. At to least to me Ragnarökr is a much bigger event than mere earthly concerns. What I do see developing is serious upheaval in human affairs with over-population of the globe and the scramble for resources in a highly volatile and possibly changing environment. This will equate to the clash of cultures and ideologies. This is nothing new in the way humans interact but the potential blow out this time is far greater than ever before. It may seem like Ragnarökr but it won’t be the big one. . .call it a mini-ragnarökr with the ‘gods‘ in this instance being foolish humans and their unwise leaders.

[Teutoburg Weald]

Personally, i don't know if this big thing in 2012 will take place or not, i don't know, and personally, i don't really care, we all have to die one day...

Like Ridend, i keep an open mind on things like this, as far as those things on TV, i don't bother watching em, simply because, those who do these programs are not interested in it taking place, but in ratings as Ridend has rightly said, and perhaps as my dad calls it, Fear Tactics by the media?

As for Civil distubances, or Civil War, or Race War, yes, i believe something like that, is coming, and i believe it will begin in England first, and it will be bloody, and distructive, but i also believe that we the Englafolc will come out of it free, and for wiser for it..   

And far less of a push over in the future, and no longer an easy touch, which will be about time..

Oh it will brake out in other countries as well, but i believe it will begin in England, and we must be ready for it, for we will be lost completely if we lose it, but i believe we won't lose it, i think it will be more of a race war, since the White Race's will be fighting for their very survival...

As far as the end of the world and all that Hollywood thing, well, the Earth Mother may take a hand, i don't know, you see the Earth has gone through so many changes in her history, this will will only be one of many, but i doubt if it will be the end of the world all together, just the end of the presant set up, therefore the end of the Global New World Order, and back to living with Nature, instead of against her, and back to being Normal Indevidual Folk-nations, independent of each other, and no more Globalist Agenders..

As far as all of us dying, no i doubt it, the Human race hasn't finished his evolution yet, not by a long way, so no, not all of us, although, there will be millions killed, which will bring down the Human numbers..

But that is only if it takes place at all that is, we shall only have to wait and see..

But i believe Race War is coming, yes most certainly, and with in the next three years or so, and i believe it will begin in England, why England?

Well since i believe the English, have been pushed into a corner long enough, and we will come out fighting like savages sooner or later, yes i mean like savages, like wild animals, for we must prove ourselves far more terrable and visious than any of those facing us, just like our Forefather's were like, and i still believe we have it in us to be like our ancesors, its not been bread out of us, its still there, we only show it when we are push into a corner and that time is coming..

[Witnere]

Dunno about the prophecy bit, tend to be a sceptic meself where that's concerned. I do know I am seriously hacked-off with the bollocks we're taking, that I'm not alone in this, and I think it will kick-off sooner rather than later now.

[Sceadugenden]

Witnere, on 06 August 2010 - 08:15 PM, said:

Dunno about the prophecy bit, tend to be a sceptic meself where that's concerned. I do know I am seriously hacked-off with the bollocks we're taking, that I'm not alone in this, and I think it will kick-off sooner rather than later now.

Although I do not yet know enough about about the prophecies , I can sense something will happen in the not to distant future. For reason I believe Western Europe will be the testing ground for any further pushes of Islam. They are still angry that Charles Martel and his Frankish troops stopped them at Poitiers and the Spanish finally booted them out in 1492 (the Madrid train bombing was in revenge for that). The Ottomans were stopped at Vienna, they still want Europe. The best we can do is when the fit hits the shan then make sure we look after our loved ones and stand as one.

[Coenwulf]

ah some really good thoughts here, i think ive finally hit the jackpot when it comes to discussing these things with people who know what theyre on about! Its certainly reassuring to now other people share the same ideas as me and my family on this civil war business.

[Sceadugenden]

Heres one thought . All the Horoscope readers like Russell Grant and Mystic Meg seem not to have picked up on these pointers of Ragnarok/2012. You would they thought they would be giving warnings, that is of course if they are not a bunch of charlatans.

[Fox Spirit]

Sceadugenden, on 10 August 2010 - 01:02 PM, said:

Heres one thought . All the Horoscope readers like Russell Grant and Mystic Meg seem not to have picked up on these pointers of Ragnarok/2012. You would they thought they would be giving warnings, that is of course if they are not a bunch of charlatans.

What are you talking about? Didn't you see the latest Horoscopes?

CAPRICORN: THE END IS NIGH!

AQUARIUS: DOOMED!

PISCES: IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT!

ARIES: 1st JAN 2012 COULD BE YOUR LUCKY DAY, BUT IT WILL PROBABLY BE YOUR LAST!

TAURUS: IF YOU THOUGHT YOUR LIFE WAS BULLS**T NOW, JUST WAIT UNTIL 2012!

GEMINI: DOUBLE TROUBLE AWAITS YOU IN 2012!

CANCER: SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR LOVED ONES WHILST YOU STILL CAN!

LEO: DON'T FORGET TO PRAY!

VIRGO: DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DIE A VIRGIN? 2012 IS YOUR SELL-BY DATE!

LIBRA: THE BALANCE HAS BEEN IRREVERSIBLY DAMAGED! THE SCALES TILT TOWARDS 2012!

SCORPIO: WHY ARE YOU ALL STILL READING THIS?

SAGGITARIUS: WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!

[Teutoburg Weald]

English_Dragon_Hatchling, on 10 August 2010 - 03:40 PM, said:

What are you talking about? Didn't you see the latest Horoscopes?

CAPRICORN: THE END IS NIGH!

AQUARIUS: DOOMED!

PISCES: IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT!

ARIES: 1st JAN 2012 COULD BE YOUR LUCKY DAY, BUT IT WILL PROBABLY BE YOUR LAST!

TAURUS: IF YOU THOUGHT YOUR LIFE WAS BULLS**T NOW, JUST WAIT UNTIL 2012!

GEMINI: DOUBLE TROUBLE AWAITS YOU IN 2012!

CANCER: SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR LOVED ONES WHILST YOU STILL CAN!

LEO: DON'T FORGET TO PRAY!

VIRGO: DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DIE A VIRGIN? 2012 IS YOUR SELL-BY DATE!

LIBRA: THE BALANCE HAS BEEN IRREVERSIBLY DAMAGED! THE SCALES TILT TOWARDS 2012!

SCORPIO: WHY ARE YOU ALL STILL READING THIS?

SAGGITARIUS: WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!

I'm Libra meduk, and i don't take anything serious until it happens..

Besides, we've all gotta go someday, so why worry..   

'ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE, DDDO, DDDO, ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF DEATH DDDO DDDOO...'      

WE'ER DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.   

[Fox Spirit]

Harold Godwinsson, on 10 August 2010 - 05:45 PM, said:

I'm Libra meduk, and i don't take anything serious until it happens..

Besides, we've all gotta go someday, so why worry..   

'ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE, DDDO, DDDO, ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF DEATH DDDO DDDOO...'      

WE'ER DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.   

[Teutoburg Weald]

English_Dragon_Hatchling, on 10 August 2010 - 07:43 PM, said:

Cheer's meduk, i love that film, i went to see it four times on the flicks, bloody brilliant...      

Do you know the best thing about that film?

It litererally pissed of the Xtian church and many Xtians, it really got up their noses, and since turning back to the Old Ways, and true Gods, i love it even more, simply because it really got up the noses of the Xtian Church, it really showed em up, for the Hypicritical sharlitans they really are, not just that, NO FUCKING SENSE OF HUMOUR EITHER..     

[Fox Spirit]

Harold Godwinsson, on 11 August 2010 - 01:42 PM, said:

Cheer's meduk, i love that film, i went to see it four times on the flicks, bloody brilliant...      

Do you know the best thing about that film?

It litererally pissed of the Xtian church and many Xtians, it really got up their noses, and since turning back to the Old Ways, and true Gods, i love it even more, simply because it really got up the noses of the Xtian Church, it really showed em up, for the Hypicritical sharlitans they really are, not just that, NO FUCKING SENSE OF HUMOUR EITHER..     

I recall watching something about the film and the run up to its release- it was actually banned somewhere on the continent so people crossed the border in a neighbouring country just to see it- where the slogan 'so funny it was banned in ______' was used to advertise it!

I love the stoning scene; 'HE SAID JEHOVAH!!!'

[Teutoburg Weald]

English_Dragon_Hatchling, on 11 August 2010 - 07:25 PM, said:

I recall watching something about the film and the run up to its release- it was actually banned somewhere on the continent so people crossed the border in a neighbouring country just to see it- where the slogan 'so funny it was banned in ______' was used to advertise it!

I love the stoning scene; 'HE SAID JEHOVAH!!!'

Yup, i liked that scene as well; 'Alright, who through that, there is always one!!'

Or what about in the Palace, with the Governer; 'I have a sister, her name is, Incontinentia! Look's around to see if anyone is laughing. Incontinentia, Buttock's. Every Guard in the room brakes down laughing!!'

'Weelise Wodawick!!'   

'I'm not a Roman Mum, i'm a Heebie, a Red Sea Perdestrian, a Kite, i'm cosha!!'

'So, what have the Roman's ever done for us? Well, they did build roads.. So besides Roads, what have the Roman's ever done for us? Dranege..'

  

Or what about; 'He's not the Massia. He's a naughty boy!!'

[Sceadugenden]

I remember going to the local flea pit to see it and there was even a Priest asking people not to go in as it was blasphemy. Of course he was rightfully ignored. I consider myself lucky being tall, I was 13 when it was realeased but got away with it.

[Coenwulf]

That was a truly awesome film. remember the first time i saw it, i thought it was so good i immidiately got my freinds over to watch it that day, we couldnt get that song out of our heads for WEEKS! monty python, where would we be without you