Witnere's avatar design seems to pop up on war game sites several times, though I've no idea where it originated.
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 04:32 PM
You call it freedom and tolerance. I call it a death dance for England
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 09:38 PM
The Mr.Flag version could also be described as 'rampant' in stance, and for me looks a little better designed than the other rampant style. It's sort of half way between 'my' version, and the 'SN' rampant version. I think it's a good compromise. I humbly suggest we use that version if I may be so bold. 
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 11:49 AM
You call it freedom and tolerance. I call it a death dance for England
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 12:09 PM
Yes that's it! If I couldn't see my preferred version being adopted that's the one I'd suggest. Maybe make the dragon a little bigger, but otherwise that's about right to me. Nice shade of red too.
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And to implement a systematic denial that a particular people even exist is just about the worst form of racism there is."-John Lovejoy
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 12:20 PM
Woden, on 22 November 2009 - 11:49 AM, said:
This is the best white dragon flag i have seen so far
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 12:27 PM
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 05:41 PM
randwulf the middle saxon, on 22 November 2009 - 12:20 PM, said:
This is the best white dragon flag i have seen so far
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And to implement a systematic denial that a particular people even exist is just about the worst form of racism there is."-John Lovejoy
"Anyone who thinks multiculturalism will ever work is frankly a bit soft in the head." -Me
Holdscipe mec bintst.
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 07:22 PM
Witnere, on 22 November 2009 - 05:41 PM, said:
I'm being dense, sorry. Which one?
Sorry witnere,the wessex white dragon flag,but yours is good too.
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"I feel Extreme emotional sadness for the young men I knew that gave their lives willingly for a cause in which we all believed. And I often say to myself now if those young boys would come down now and walk through the villages,through the towns and through the cities and look around and see what is happening to us, they would say somewhere along the line we have been BETRAYED."
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"I feel Extreme emotional sadness for the young men I knew that gave their lives willingly for a cause in which we all believed. And I often say to myself now if those young boys would come down now and walk through the villages,through the towns and through the cities and look around and see what is happening to us, they would say somewhere along the line we have been BETRAYED."
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 09:32 PM
Yes the white Wessex one is good. I think it's the best compromise, and a good design on it's own merit. I think we're coming to a consensus here.
"It is surely deculturalisation that has opened the way to racist behaviour.
And to implement a systematic denial that a particular people even exist is just about the worst form of racism there is."-John Lovejoy
"Anyone who thinks multiculturalism will ever work is frankly a bit soft in the head." -Me
Holdscipe mec bintst.
And to implement a systematic denial that a particular people even exist is just about the worst form of racism there is."-John Lovejoy
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Posted 23 November 2009 - 09:31 AM
Witnere, on 22 November 2009 - 09:32 PM, said:
Yes the white Wessex one is good. I think it's the best compromise, and a good design on it's own merit. I think we're coming to a consensus here.
I had a look on the PONTO site and was not keen on that design. I agree with the Wessex white dragon design. Best one I have seen so far.
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Posted 24 November 2009 - 01:40 PM
SN Admin, on 21 November 2009 - 03:07 PM, said:
I don't like the Ponto version to be honest. The rampant version I like because it was one of the first out there in the public eye and seems to be the standard so far. The one on your avatar Witnere I also like, however I have never been able to trace it back to where it was designed etc. Can someone provide solid information as to where it was designed etc?
China?
Everyone agrees we need something distinctively our own. So if derivative is wrong why go oriental? And this IS oriental: LOSTE, Witnere, Penda - all have emblems that betray the same stylistic origins. The Ponto version is childish - worse than the stumbling drunk.
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 02:15 PM
With regard to the heraldic version of the white dragon, take a look now here, this online store now sell some really good items in the traditional design–
WD BADGE –
http://www.theenglan..._id=00287&xm=on
WD FLAG
http://www.theenglan...0293&name=Saxon White Dragon Flag&xm=on
WD PATCH (see last design)
http://www.theenglan...product=Patches
Also St Edmund Flags
http://www.theenglan...nt_Edmund&xm=on
WD BADGE –
http://www.theenglan..._id=00287&xm=on
WD FLAG
http://www.theenglan...0293&name=Saxon White Dragon Flag&xm=on
WD PATCH (see last design)
http://www.theenglan...product=Patches
Also St Edmund Flags
http://www.theenglan...nt_Edmund&xm=on
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 02:22 PM
The St Edmund Association has now gone into discussions with the LOSTE and it is hoped to join forces shortly.
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The Old English Order is for the restoration of our Saxon founders, the furtherance of Old England and its ancient Anglo Saxon heredity. The lost kingdoms of our true Anglian forefathers can at last be revived or at least redeemed.
OEO proposes “cultural preservation” and restoration of the true English identity long forgotten after 1066. England needs reminding of how our present national flag was once the emblem of a conquering oppressor, the Papal Cross piously granted to William of Normandy to devastate England in that fateful year.
The nation of east Britannia still struggles for its identity whilst its neighbours freely promote theirs with confidence. Whilst the Order has no quarrel with our Celtic islanders, the descendents of Wodensfolk need awareness of their true heritage upon the spiritual land of Harold Godwinson
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The parent organisation of the SEA is the Old English Order and is described as –
The Old English Order is for the restoration of our Saxon founders, the furtherance of Old England and its ancient Anglo Saxon heredity. The lost kingdoms of our true Anglian forefathers can at last be revived or at least redeemed.
OEO proposes “cultural preservation” and restoration of the true English identity long forgotten after 1066. England needs reminding of how our present national flag was once the emblem of a conquering oppressor, the Papal Cross piously granted to William of Normandy to devastate England in that fateful year.
The nation of east Britannia still struggles for its identity whilst its neighbours freely promote theirs with confidence. Whilst the Order has no quarrel with our Celtic islanders, the descendents of Wodensfolk need awareness of their true heritage upon the spiritual land of Harold Godwinson
Old English Order ©2002
"There is a need that each of us should understand where they came from, what they are and what will become of them"
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Support welcome………………..
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Posted 06 January 2011 - 11:04 PM
We should definetly organise something for St.Edmunds day, its not good enough me walking around Wolvo with a St.Ed's flag round me shoulders looking embarrased. I should have been prouder but i did look like a right wally when nobody else came out to celelbrate.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 02:53 PM
I apologise as I may be showing my ignorance or confusion here but should it be a drgon or a wyrm? or is it a wyrm for wessex only, Or what about the wyvern, I thought that was the samE as the wyrm as in my avatar?
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 06:30 PM
Osgar, I'm no expert, but if you wind the page up to the very top, and look for "Saxon North" at the top left, and open it you will see how we came to arrive at our White Wyrm, Seaxan has written some info.
"Wyrm" is distinctly and historically our word. Not to be confused with the Welsh or Chinese or Roman Dragon.
The Wyvern I think was gold coloured as the emblem for Wessex. As we Englisc are from the Midlands, (Mercia) and the North, (Northumberland), as well as from Wessex, your white wyrm avatar is a flag for us all together.
"Wyrm" is distinctly and historically our word. Not to be confused with the Welsh or Chinese or Roman Dragon.
The Wyvern I think was gold coloured as the emblem for Wessex. As we Englisc are from the Midlands, (Mercia) and the North, (Northumberland), as well as from Wessex, your white wyrm avatar is a flag for us all together.
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